Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 do we have a super catcher in the minors that i never heard of b4 or something because now were down to sandy and ben davis and their both old....... Ben Davis is about 27. This is one huge gamble. C'mon Freddie. KW is on espn 1000 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 What a terrible, terrible deal. It's one thing to give up minor league prospects, but to give away your catcher of the future when you have no one in the minors to replace him is just f***ing stupid. I thougth this was a joke when I first heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyLawRules Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I like the deal. Garcia will be a much needed addition and I have faith that Burke and Sandy will do fine splitting games. As far as Reed goes...I guess we'll have to wait and see if that bites us in the rear. Gotta go for it now, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 This Trade is true. Just saw it on Sportscenter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 While Olivo is a very good player, we can live without him. Burke and Alomar will be enough for us this season . Garcia will fill out biggest need and hopefully win us this division! Reed may never pan out in the majors and it is better to get proven talent in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 JOIN THE SOXNET CHAT TO TALK ABOUT THIS TRADE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Kenny said that Freddy's best friend (ozzie) said that we have a good shot to resign to a long term deal. If we do, then it's a good trade, he's an Ace pitcher and an Ace pitcher is better than Miguel Olivo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 While Olivo is a very good player, we can live without him. Burke and Alomar will be enough for us this season . Garcia will fill out biggest need and hopefully win us this division! Reed may never pan out in the majors and it is better to get proven talent in return. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traydragen Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 What the hell, we must have "Had" to give up Olivo to get him b/c the Yanks and the Red Sox were getting into it as well. Damnit man I love Miguel, I never, ever, expected him to get traded..DAMNIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 NOO!!! Olivo is my guy! And Reed? I thought he was gona be our super OF of the future? Damnit!! Whadja pay?? :puke :puke :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I'm all about "going for it". We recognized our holes and it sounds like KW is trying to fill them (SP (Ortiz?, Garcia), CF (Jones?), BP). Problem is that you can't make new holes to fill existing holes, you can't move a brick from the left side of the dam to fill a hole on the right side of the dam, that sumb**** is still gonna leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 What the hell? Until the White Sox confirm this, I choose not to listen to the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Damn, I got to do alot of changing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I don't mind losing Reed... ....But Olivo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traydragen Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 How good has Ben Davis been this year and who the hell is Micheal Morse?? or whatever his name is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyLawRules Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Kenny said that Freddy's best friend (ozzie) said that we have a good shot to resign to a long term deal. If we do, then it's a good trade, he's an Ace pitcher and an Ace pitcher is better than Miguel Olivo. Totally agree. I don't understand why everyone is down on this trade. We have a history of hanging on to minor leaguers until they suck, so I have no problem with parting with Reed. As far as MO is concerned...it's not like we are giving up Johnny Estrada for cryin' out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 What the hell? Until the White Sox confirm this, I choose not to listen to the media. Its breaking news on ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I'm going to do alittle.. :puke and and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 i hate to lose to Miguel Olivo but we needed the arm. up to Kenny to find another catcher 'cause I'm not sure Jamie Burke is the answer. Miguel shuts down the running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 We couldn't give em Borchard? Geez come on Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 If we do not resign garcia this is gonna be a a bad trade i feel. Olivo is gonna be a top cathcer within a year two at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 We better be getting f***ing Victor Martinez, Johnny Estrada or something. Ben Davis.. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Without Reed there's still Ryan Sweeney and Brian Anderson to look forward too. But without Olive there's no up-and-coming catcher in the Sox system. Same for Morse, whom I feel was the best shortstop in the minors for the Sox. Burke and Alomar will get the job done behind the plate this year, and Freddy Garcia will anchor their rotation and possibly provide more stability for MB and Esteban. It's upsetting to see such quality young players leave, but on the other hand the Sox greatest need is being filled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 To those upset about Olivo: Giving up our young catcher Olivo was the only way we were going to get Garcia. New York was offering their catching stud Navarro, and Olivo was our only good young catcher hat could rival him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I'm not that big on Reed, but I hate losing MO. He's really come into his own this year. It's really a bittersweet deal. I'm excited, but then I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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