Old Socks Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 1. Joe Borchard. He finally moved ahead of Reed in the MVP (Most Valuable Prospect) race. 2. Jaime Burke. He is probably # 1 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Oh, I forgot. 3. Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Im happy you get an ace pitcher at a high cost but thats business you have to give something to get. Who says the Mariners even wanted Joe Borchard they actually wanted Crede but Kenny talked them into taking Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am very happy. Some of my friends have told me I have had a Man-Crush on Garcia for the past three years. And now he is on the Sox... Woo Hoo. In all seriousness... We got an ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniBob72 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am very happy. Now the Sox have a very good top 4 of the rotation. Olivo and Reed may be very good players, or maybe not. You weren't going to get Garcia for Matt Karchner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 You got a proven #1 starter for a 9th place hitter and a prospect. I know that simplifies it, and perhaps unfairly so, but I'm tired of having loyalty to individual players, I would rather see a real legit shot at winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 You got a proven #1 starter for a 9th place hitter and a prospect. I know that simplifies it, and perhaps unfairly so, but I'm tired of having loyalty to individual players, I would rather see a real legit shot at winning. That's greatly put it into perspective. I was iffy on it yesterday, but as the hours went on, the more I end up liking this trade. This trade was necessary for the success of the ballclub. We needed a SP, and KW got the best available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venezuelansoxfan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I'm very happy with the trade... we got a proven starter and a catcher that maybe will turn around the things with the sox... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am thrilled with the trade. I believe it puts us over the top in the AL Central and maybe even in the whole AL. Garcia is a stud and was the best option out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Oz had a good quote about this putting the pressure on he and Coop. Let's say for some reason we don't play well after acquiring Freddie. Does Oz get the ax? Does Coop? Does KW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I'm among the very happy, even though Olivo had become a favorite. Time to make it happen already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am very happy, we needed another starter and we got him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am happy. me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I think we can now safely say we have the best pitcher in the AL Central. That makes me happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I'm happy but I want the LH Moyer here as well. His 2001 post season 3-0 2.6 era is just the kind of experience we need on the SOX to win more than just the division. I want to go to battle in Oct with Garcia, Buehrle, E-LO, & Moyer. So KW pick up the phone again & bug the s*** out of the Seattle GM until Moyer is a member of the White Sox. We know we can outbid the Yanks on talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am not happy at all actually. After I've had time to think of it, how is it any different than having a guy like Colon last year? I don't think Garcia is that much better than Bartolo, if even better at all. And we had to give up our best prospect and young stud catcher to make it happen. If Garcia doesn't resign, this deal is the final straw for KW in my eyes. He'll have a lot of explaining to do on a cold weekend in early February if we are left without Garcia after the season. And I will be one of the main participants in the questioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I am not happy at all actually. After I've had time to think of it, how is it any different than having a guy like Colon last year? I don't think Garcia is that much better than Bartolo, if even better at all. And we had to give up our best prospect and young stud catcher to make it happen. If Garcia doesn't resign, this deal is the final straw for KW in my eyes. He'll have a lot of explaining to do on a cold weekend in early February if we are left without Garcia after the season. And I will be one of the main participants in the questioning. What's to explain. You know his reasoning. We were in desperate need of a starter and KW got the best available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 What's to explain. You know his reasoning. We were in desperate need of a starter and KW got the best available. True. But wouldn't you rather have Unit-Garcia as 1-2 in Fenway versus Pedro-Shilling than Garcia-Burhle? Or Unit-Garcia-Buerhle-Loaiza instead of Garcia-Buerhle-Loaiza-Garland should Sox reach ALCS? All this talk of getting Andruw Jones......A no-trade clause aside, why couldn't Sox use that money on Unit instaed? You can't tell me Andruw "I went 1 for 17 last year against stud Cub pitchers in NLDS" Jones gives you a better chance to win the Series in 2004 and hopefully in 2005 than Randy Johnson does. Could it hurt the Sox to at least try and get him? Who knows, he may think it could be fun to win a ring in AL as well, and wave his no-trade clause? Weirder things have been known to happen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 True. But wouldn't you rather have Unit-Garcia as 1-2 in Fenway versus Pedro-Shilling than Garcia-Burhle? Or Unit-Garcia-Buerhle-Loaiza instead of Garcia-Buerhle-Loaiza-Garland should Sox reach ALCS? All this talk of getting Andruw Jones......A no-trade clause aside, why couldn't Sox use that money on Unit instaed? You can't tell me Andruw "I went 1 for 17 last year against stud Cub pitchers in NLDS" Jones gives you a better chance to win the Series in 2004 and hopefully in 2005 than Randy Johnson does. Could it hurt the Sox to at least try and get him? Who knows, he may think it could be fun to win a ring in AL as well, and wave his no-trade clause? Weirder things have been known to happen..... Sure. I'd love to have RJ take the ball in game one. But, I just don't see it happening. I don't think Johnson OK's any deals. Based on that belief on my part, I look at other alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Sure. I'd love to have RJ take the ball in game one. But, I just don't see it happening. I don't think Johnson OK's any deals. Based on that belief on my part, I look at other alternatives. Ok, say he WERE to ok the deal...... Do you think Sox go after him with 2 months to go in the regular season? Getting Garcia tells me Sox are effin' serious about postseason. Well, Unit (if his knee is healthy) is the great equalizer - he'll take pressure off Garcia and Buerhle as well. Since somebody mentioned Sox might be doing Jones for prospects, that means JR is willing to spend 4-5 Mill for 2-3 months of service. If that's the case......screw Jones, use thaty money to get Randy Johnson - at least make a friggin' ATTEMPT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Ok, say he WERE to ok the deal...... Do you think Sox go after him with 2 months to go in the regular season? Getting Garcia tells me Sox are effin' serious about postseason. Well, Unit (if his knee is healthy) is the great equalizer - he'll take pressure off Garcia and Buerhle as well. Since somebody mentioned Sox might be doing Jones for prospects, that means JR is willing to spend 4-5 Mill for 2-3 months of service. If that's the case......screw Jones, use thaty money to get Randy Johnson - at least make a friggin' ATTEMPT. Done. I with you on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Done. I with you on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Since somebody mentioned Sox might be doing Jones for prospects, that means JR is willing to spend 4-5 Mill for 2-3 months of service. you still dont understand that if we get Jones that he will be here until 2007 because of a current contract? Jones isnt a rent-a-player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 you still dont understand that if we get Jones that he will be here until 2007 because of a current contract? Jones isnt a rent-a-player Getting Johnson still makes more sense. Since his contract is gauranteed through only 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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