RibbieRubarb Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 AL Central: White Sox Why? Because the Twins' luck is finally up. In 2002 the Twins outscored their opponents by 56 runs, the White Sox outscored theirs by 58 runs -- and somehow the Twins finished 13½ games ahead of the White Sox. In 2003 the Twins outscored their opponents by 43 runs, the White Sox outscored theirs by 76 runs -- and the Twins finished four games ahead of the White Sox. Not this year, though. The White Sox have outscored their opponents by 71 runs, the Twins have been outscored by 18 runs -- and they're tied in the standings. That's two seasons and three months of strange, and what I'm telling you is that it's just not going to persist. The White Sox were significantly better than the Twins before they got Freddy Garcia, and within two months the Sox will have a six-game lead. At least. Let's hope he's right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 sounds good to me the twins big edge has been the pen. last year LaTroy and Eddie this year nathan now that we have finally pulled the plug on Koch, we should start to gain more altitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Huge start tonight by Freddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 A lot of what "should" happen in there...how long have we been saying this stuff? It just comes down to them doing it, plain and simple. Go play like you should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 we "should" have been winning the division every year since the '00 season...we are in the weakest division in baseball by far...we have ,i believe , the highest payroll within the division and are the only major market team we have been a huge failure the past three years..lets hope we finally got it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Jerry Manuel's gone. That's a great start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Jerry Manuel's gone. That's a great start. That alone pulled is within a tie of Minny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valponick Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Would you mind copying and pasting the whole article. I don't have Insider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Why? Because the Twins' luck is finally up. In 2002 the Twins outscored their opponents by 56 runs, the White Sox outscored theirs by 58 runs -- and somehow the Twins finished 13½ games ahead of the White Sox. In 2003 the Twins outscored their opponents by 43 runs, the White Sox outscored theirs by 76 runs -- and the Twins finished four games ahead of the White Sox I love short-sighted S-metricians. Lessee..... 2002-2003 Twins were: -Faster/Hustlier -Smarter -Much better defensively -Much better fundamentally prepared (read: more efficient with their OPS) -More clutch (in "close games" and not in pad-a-stat blow-outs) -Beat the Sox head-to-head, each win counting as 2 -Had a better on-field manager and an even better motivator/teacher. -Also got a few more lucky bounces Now you understand, Rob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I love short-sighted S-metricians. Lessee..... 2002-2003 Twins were: -Faster/Hustlier -Smarter -Much better defensively -Much better fundamentally prepared (read: more efficient with their OPS) -More clutch (in "close games" and not in pad-a-stat blow-outs) -Beat the Sox head-to-head, each win counting as 2 -Had a better on-field manager and an even better motivator/teacher. -Also got a few more lucky bounces Now you understand, Rob? The first 7 things listed are huge contributing factors to the 8th one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGHURT54 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THEM IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND THE TWO WEEKS AFTER THE BREAK. THATS WHERE THEY'VE BEEN IFFY THE PAST COUPLE YEARS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I love short-sighted S-metricians. Lessee..... 2002-2003 Twins were: -Faster/Hustlier -Smarter -Much better defensively -Much better fundamentally prepared (read: more efficient with their OPS) -More clutch (in "close games" and not in pad-a-stat blow-outs) -Beat the Sox head-to-head, each win counting as 2 -Had a better on-field manager and an even better motivator/teacher. -Also got a few more lucky bounces Now you understand, Rob? Exactly. The ability to close is what separates the good teams from the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Gammons predicted the White Sox will win the World Series on Sportcenter this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Are you crappin' us? That means we'll finish last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Gammons predicted the White Sox will win the World Series on Sportcenter this evening. LMAO. What? The world series? When did this happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I'm starting to agree with the East Coast lover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Gammons predicted the White Sox will win the World Series on Sportcenter this evening. We very well could be the best team in the AL right now. We have a top 2 offense in the league(IMO, only the Yankees could have a better one then us), and a top 2 rotation in the league(IMO, only the A's have a better one). Our bullpen is not as deep as it should be, but Politte-Marte-Shingo is about as solid as you are going to see in the AL(Politte has been better as of late, do not let his high 4 ERA scare you). Right now, I'm starting to think we may have all we need to win. We could definately use another top of the rotation starter, but our rotation is solid regardless. And that contact hitter I thought we needed could be Aaron Rowand...he seems to be putting good swings on balls right now. I'd love to have Jason Kendall...I just don't think that's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I'd love to have Jason Kendall...I just don't think that's possible. I'd love to have a billion dollars...I just don't think thats possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Gammons predicted the White Sox will win the World Series on Sportcenter this evening. That jinxing scumbag :fyou Then again, with Randy Johnson and another RH reliever, ANYTHING is possible. Especially if Kevin Brown is not healthy and Pedro can't throw over 90-92 mph. Of course "anything" also includes "getting swept out of ALDS", but I better not think such ugly thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Gammons predicted the White Sox will win the World Series on Sportcenter this evening. I heard that. He just kind of threw it in at the very end of the segment. I was like WTF!?!? Wow, I don't know if there's a Gammons curse, but let's do this on the field. We're getting some mad props now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I hate to burst anybody's bubble, but if we don't come up with a lefty RBI producer, those playoff quality RHP are going to beat us in the playoffs. It's only been happening on a consistant basis, through the regular seasons, since the 2000 playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I'd love to have a billion dollars...I just don't think thats possible. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 :headshake SuperSteve.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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