DBAHO Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 From the Newark Stark Ledger, "Convinced they cannot re-sign him after the season --and so repulsed by his behavior Thursday night in the Bronx they no longer want to -- Red Sox officials are seriously considering trading Nomar Garciaparra before the July 31 non-waivers deadline... Players mentioned as possible return for the Red Sox include Chicago's Magglio Ordonez, the Dodgers' Adrian Beltre, Seattle's Bret Boone, Toronto's Carlos Delgado and Anaheim's Adam Kennedy and Ramon Ortiz." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 No way should the Sox be interested. I think the speculation is there because of the off season trade talk. The Sox are just fine at SS w/ Jose having a nice year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Even with out Jose, we don't really need a SS. Garciaparra would be sweet, but we have Uribe and Harris as our future middle infielders, and so basically we would swap off two potential free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 IMO, any trade involving Maggs should involve players who are signed past this season. Otherwise, you're just entering the same situation you already have with Maggs anyway, so might as well keep Maggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 This is crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 It's all speculation. I seriously doubt KW has any interest in this, unless we have a pending deal with Jose for a another pitcher. I don't think that's the case, but the only scenerio where I could see a deal going down this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Nomar showed a bad 'tude against the Yankees. He made three errors in that series. He's got chronic problems with his wrist. He's not hitting the way he used to. He's probably interested in going to the West Coast next year. Other than that, it would be a great pickup. Just say NO to NO-mar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Nomar showed a bad 'tude against the Yankees. He made three errors in that series. He's got chronic problems with his wrist. He's not hitting the way he used to. He's probably interested in going to the West Coast next year. Other than that, it would be a great pickup. Just say NO to NO-mar. Agreed on all counts. If we are going to trade Ordonez, get Andruw Jones and Russell Ortiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Agreed on all counts. If we are going to trade Ordonez, get Andruw Jones and Russell Ortiz. Any trade you make should be judged on whether it can help the team improve. There is nothing in the Nomar and Maggs trade talk to impress me with an improvement for the Sox. Jose is the most potent SS bat out there right now and all we would be doing in setting ourselves up for losing another free agent at the end of the year. I don't want to see Maggs traded, but it might happen and pitching is our need not an attitude problem. who most likely yearns for the West coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 There is no way in hell I make this deal. This would instantly turn us from being a contender to being a 3rd/4th place team. Nomar's best years are behind him and plus he's an asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 The White Sox don't need him.. Peter Gammons just came on WEEI over here and said that he's going to be kept unless it's a deal with Anaheim where they are willing to give up Kotchman, Figgins, and more young players. As a Red Sox fan, Kotchman is the freakin man. I love this kid defensively, and I see him as a .350+ hitter just like Nomar was/can be. As a White Sox fan, Im just happy that the entire farm system won't be torn apart by acquiring a guy who won't resign with the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 On ESPN's Sports Reporters this morning, Michael What'shisname took a shot at Nomar. They showed a camera shot of all of his teammates standing on the edge of the dugout cheering for their team with Nomar sitting on the bench with an attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 On ESPN's Sports Reporters this morning, Michael What'shisname took a shot at Nomar. They showed a camera shot of all of his teammates standing on the edge of the dugout cheering for their team with Nomar sitting on the bench with an attitude. It wasn't an attitude, he wanted to play. Nomar's a great kid. Right now its his turn to take the media's "driving you out of Boston" tour and also the fact that he wasn't medically cleared to play probably pissed him off also. The past two nights the guy has ripped the ball in every at bat going 6 for 8.. watch out guys, we got an angry Nomar on our hands, and this thing we call slump could be over in a matter of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k3nn3th Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Nomar showed a bad 'tude against the Yankees. He made three errors in that series. He's got chronic problems with his wrist. He's not hitting the way he used to. He's probably interested in going to the West Coast next year. Other than that, it would be a great pickup. Just say NO to NO-mar. couldn't have said it better myself. It comes down to the fact that Nomar is not an upgrade, which should be the result of any trades we make this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 It wasn't an attitude, he wanted to play. Nomar's a great kid. Right now its his turn to take the media's "driving you out of Boston" tour and also the fact that he wasn't medically cleared to play probably pissed him off also. The past two nights the guy has ripped the ball in every at bat going 6 for 8.. watch out guys, we got an angry Nomar on our hands, and this thing we call slump could be over in a matter of games. He still can't move side to side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 The White Sox don't need him.. Peter Gammons just came on WEEI over here and said that he's going to be kept unless it's a deal with Anaheim where they are willing to give up Kotchman, Figgins, and more young players. As a Red Sox fan, Kotchman is the freakin man. I love this kid defensively, and I see him as a .350+ hitter just like Nomar was/can be. As a White Sox fan, Im just happy that the entire farm system won't be torn apart by acquiring a guy who won't resign with the White Sox. Thats the thing, our farm system has gone sour. All of those guys who never made it are gone...too many shoulder problems on prized prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 From the Newark Stark Ledger, NO Nomar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Nomar showed a bad 'tude against the Yankees. He made three errors in that series. He's got chronic problems with his wrist. He's not hitting the way he used to. He's probably interested in going to the West Coast next year. Other than that, it would be a great pickup. Just say NO to NO-mar. Agreed. Mags has better offensive numbers that Normar anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I still think Henrey is going to make a big splash and Nomar is going to go to the Cubs. Just a hunch. They can have him. If the redsox want maggs, what are they going to do with trot? If the bosox want maggs I'd want the sox to go after, nixon, lowe, williamson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 As a Red Sox fan, Kotchman is the freakin man. I love this kid defensively, and I see him as a .350+ hitter just like Nomar was/can be. .350+ hitter? We ain't talking about Rod Carew here. Now, a .310+ hitter? That's much better baseball talk, right there. Sounds a hell of a lot more intelligent to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 The one thing I find interesting is that Jose is always been labeled as a "bad fielding shortstop". Yet, when you look at Nomar, he has averaged 21 errors in the last 6 full seasons he has played. Overall, he has a .968 fielder. As for Jose, he has averaged 23 errors in the infield (this includes time at 3B) over the last 6 full seasons. Overall, he is a .957 fielder. Not a big upgrade defensivly. Although, they way they speak of Nomar, you would think he is the second coming. I wanna see some Jose love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 The one thing I find interesting is that Jose is always been labeled as a "bad fielding shortstop". Yet, when you look at Nomar, he has averaged 21 errors in the last 6 full seasons he has played. Overall, he has a .968 fielder. As for Jose, he has averaged 23 errors in the infield (this includes time at 3B) over the last 6 full seasons. Overall, he is a .957 fielder. Not a big upgrade defensivly. Although, they way they speak of Nomar, you would think he is the second coming. I wanna see some Jose love! It's not an upgrade at all defensively. Jose is a better defender then nomar no doubt in my mind. Jose is a very underrated defender by most people, he's a very solid short stop with a very good left handed bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I still think Henrey is going to make a big splash and Nomar is going to go to the Cubs. Just a hunch. I agree. I think Nomar is goin to the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Cubs need him more than we do. But what do they give up? I bet they wuold give up one of those promising pitching prospects. And speaking of defensive shortstops, Jose is having his best year, IMO. He made a bad play against Minny the other night, but that was the first blunder of consequence by Jose in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 so for someone from another galaxy as I must be, what did Nomar do that has everyone up in arms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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