kane0730 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Greg Zaun and Frank Catalanotto. Especially if Frank is going to be out for an extended amount of time. Catalanotto is the perfect #2 hitter and Zaun would be an upgrade over everyone the Sox currently have. I don't think it would take too much to get these guys. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 When Maggs and Frank get back we have a great line up and bench. The only thing I am worried about is getting another good right handed arm at the back of the bullpen. If we do that, I will be satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 If there were any way to pry away someone like a Shiggy Hasegawa or Brian Meadows even that'd be great. As SS said, one more RH arm in the pen is needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuehrleTheAce Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Our lineup is pretty solid even with Frank out. With Maggs back it's even better. My one concern area is catcher. Sandy is old, Burke is back in his career-minor league form, and Ben Davis is a bust. Are there any catchers out there that we can realistically pick up and fit into our budget for this year and the next few? I'd give up Davis and Burke and keep Alomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Catchers Dan Wilson Jason Varitek Einar Diaz Henry Blanco Kelly Stinnett Damian Miller Mike Matheny They are the only catchers that will be free agents next year. Not so exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted July 9, 2004 Author Share Posted July 9, 2004 I really like Zaun. He's a switch hitter who can run a little, and he's hitting .299 this year. I've seen enough of Burke for a lifetime, and for whatever reason (probably because he's bad) Davis hasn't been given a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddoz11 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Catchers Dan Wilson Jason Varitek Einar Diaz Henry Blanco Kelly Stinnett Damian Miller Mike Matheny They are the only catchers that will be free agents next year. Not so exciting. Out of the list I like Matheny a lot. I am not too sure how he is doing this year, but he did win a gold glove last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Personally, if Pitt would take on a bunch of the salary, I'd go for Kendall. Also see if you could land Meadows too, to take the role of Mike Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Also see if you could land Meadows too, to take the role of Mike Jackson. Meadows blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Meadows blows. In past years yes, but not this year. 3.14 ERA in 43 IP with a 1.14 WHIP. I'd take that over a lot of guys in our bullpen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 In past years yes, but not this year. 3.14 ERA in 43 IP with a 1.14 WHIP. I'd take that over a lot of guys in our bullpen... Hasn't meadows always been solid out of the pen, hasn't he just had problems as a starter? I'd also like to add Meadows and Kendall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Matheny could be waived, and I agree with whoever said he'd be a decent enough pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Greg Zaun and Frank Catalanotto. Especially if Frank is going to be out for an extended amount of time. Catalanotto is the perfect #2 hitter and Zaun would be an upgrade over everyone the Sox currently have. I don't think it would take too much to get these guys. What do you think? With Frank out, the sox will need someone to replace his bat [or at least his OBP, or someone who can hit for a higher avg] One name struck me as I was looking up VORP's from Baseball Prospectus---- BJ Surhoff. His VORP: 11.2 Yet both your choices were decent as well. Zaun: 11.0 Catalanotto: 9.4 BTW, Frank's VORP is 36.3, 2nd in the AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 I would love to have Frank Catalanotto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Catchers Dan Wilson Jason Varitek Einar Diaz Henry Blanco Kelly Stinnett Damian Miller Mike Matheny They are the only catchers that will be free agents next year. Not so exciting. I'd be pretty happy w/ Matheny, and Miller we be o.k. too. Varitek would be nice, but he's most likely out of our price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuehrleTheAce Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Out of the list I like Matheny a lot. I am not too sure how he is doing this year, but he did win a gold glove last year. Current Stats (from Yahoo! with season-to-date player rank): Dan Wilson - Rank: 619, .269 avg, 2 HR, 24 RBI, 11 runs, .666 OPS, .998 F%, 0 SB Jason Varitek - Rank: 312, .272 avg, 9 HR, 31 RBI, 34 runs, .806 OPS, .996 F%, 5 SB Einar Diaz - Rank: 860, .194 avg, 0 HR, 4 RBI, 4 runs, .519 OPS, .992 F%, 0 SB Henry Blanco - Rank: 682, .191 avg, 4 HR, 15 RBI, 17 runs, .588 OPS, .994 F%, 0 SB Kelly Stinnett - Rank: 1051, .305 avg, 3 HR, 7 RBI, 10 runs, .837 OPS, .971 F%, 0 SB Damian Miller - Rank: 399, .302 avg, 7 HR, 37 RBI, 21 runs, .828 OPS, 1.000 F%, 0 SB Mike Matheny - Rank: 635, .253 avg, 2 HR, 23 RBI, 13 runs, .652 OPS, 1.000 F%, 0 SB Jason Kendall - Rank: 272, .308 avg, 2 HR, 30 RBI, 46 runs, .758 OPS, .991 F%, 7 SB Obviously, Kendall overall looks the best. He's got speed and a good arm behind the plate. Outside of Kendall, who I think might be too expensive for us, Jason Varitek looks great. He's got power, some speed, gets on base, and is good behind the plate. Matheny might be ok or Stinnett. Miller looks good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 The sox getting Kendall does seem like a possibility. Here's a link from today's Jayson Stark, ESPN column. The Pitt. GM reportedly wants Kendalls contract off the books and soon. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stor...yson&id=1836921 If the Marlins are going after Kendall, the Sox certainly can. Esp. if Pitt takes on 30-% of his contract. Which would get Kendall's salary down under $8 mill a year for the next three years. If Pitt took on 40% then it would be under $7 mill a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 In past years yes, but not this year. 3.14 ERA in 43 IP with a 1.14 WHIP. I'd take that over a lot of guys in our bullpen... He's getting ready to get lit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 He's getting ready to get lit up. EXactly why i have no interest in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 I don't care if we get a great offensive catcher... I just want a guy who can be decent defensively behind the plate... If he can consistantly hit above .250 then thats just gravy... I say give Ben Davis a shot before we panic and and overpay for a catcher... He can't do any worse then Burke at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Veritek will finish the season with the BoSox. Kendall would be a nice addition. Another catcher that may be available is Benito Santiago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Veritek will finish the season with the BoSox. Kendall would be a nice addition. Another catcher that may be available is Benito Santiago. No Benito. He's horrible and he's signed for 2 years. The sox should go after Kendall. With Frank out for awhile [probably] the Sox need an OBP guy to help offset Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 No Benito. He's horrible and he's signed for 2 years. The sox should go after Kendall. With Frank out for awhile [probably] the Sox need an OBP guy to help offset Frank. Oh, don't jump to conclusions here. I was not advocating acquiring Santiago. I just threw another name into the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 We would not have to worry about adding a catcher if we did not include Olivo in that trade. But we have Ben Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Oh, don't jump to conclusions here. I was not advocating acquiring Santiago. I just threw another name into the discussion. My bad. I thought you were suggesting him. Benito and the 'roid allegations just don't sit well with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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