kane0730 Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Was designated for assignment yesterday and can be picked up for nothing. I'd like to see the Sox get him and play him against lefties. He's hitting .275 this year against them, and would a major upgrade over Jose in these situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManSooLee Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 The Yankees will pick him up and put him at 2b. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 This has been posted two times already...infact, the story is still on the first page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Maybe the royals will claim him off of Waviers... Looks like we need to be really worried about this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Platooning is gay. If you can't hit both lefties and righties you shouldn't be in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Platooning is gay. If you can't hit both lefties and righties you shouldn't be in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Platooning is gay. If you can't hit both lefties and righties you shouldn't be in the majors. Platooning is far from "gay." For mid-market to small-market teams platooning is their only chance to have an "all-star" at every position. By that I mean they can play two guys who each rip their respective type of pitcher (rhp/lhp) and their combined stats can create the same stats as one all-star who can hit both types of pitching. Let's face it, it'd be great to have 9 guys that all can hit rhp and lhp equally but that's gonna cost you; especially in today's market. I just finished reading Earl Weaver's book about managing, and he was quite the believer in platooning. Besides, what sense does it make to play a guy everyday if someone else can hit certain pitchers better? Even though it's blatantly obvious to play the best player for the best situation, people still think it's stupid. If the players all accept their roles and play for the TEAM, platoons are just another weapon to take advantage of other teams, and it's backwards logic like "platooning is gay" that prevents mid-market teams like the sox to gain any headway on the powerhouse big market teams. By the way, Rowand KILLS left handed pitching...do you think it would make sense to start someone else in his place against lefties even though Rowand is on the bench but you want someone to play everyday so you play him over Rowand against LHP? Nope, I didn't think it did either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 I think Jose did fine today against lefties, he put Jamie Moyer deep in the RF bleachers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Platooning is far from "gay." How many times have you seen a platoon combine for all star stats? Seriously. I can't think of any. I can't stand managers that change players everyday based on who is pitching (with the exception to bad asses like Randy Johnson, Schilling, etc.). Throw them in the water and it's sink or swim. Regarding your comments on Rowand, I would never sit him. He is a major league baseball player and deserves to play everyday. His only weakness I've seen this year is hitting with runners in scoring position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNDfan80 Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Was designated for assignment yesterday and can be picked up for nothing. I'd like to see the Sox get him and play him against lefties. He's hitting .275 this year against them, and would a major upgrade over Jose in these situations. One word : No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 How many times have you seen a platoon combine for all star stats? That comment is somewhat skewed. I mean I could just say when's the last time you've seen a REAL platoon and we could have a nice circular argument going. Hypothetically, it would work but like I said the situation needs to be right and both players need to accept that their job is to hit the crap out of one type of pitcher. To site a platoon/group of players putting up all-star numbers (this may be outdated, however I haven't seen a true platoon in awhile) I again have to defer to Weaver's book "Weaver on Strategy." He states and I quote: "By matching your bench-players' strengths to your starters' weaknesses, you can create a 'player' of all-star caliber from spare parts. In 1982 we used Benny Ayala, John Lowenstein and Gary Roenicke in left field. They combined to hit 37 homers which is the same as having a Reggie Jackson in the batting order. Individually, Roenicke, Lowenstein, or Ayala could never compar to Jackson, but when used against the pitchers they could hit they collectively performed like a star." Granted this was a "platoon" of three players, but it stresses the same point I'm trying to make. If you don't have a "stud" player but you have two or three average ones would it make the most sense to rotate them in a manner in which all of them would have their most success? Why trot a player like Rowand out there against a guy who he's 1 for 24 against when you have a guy like Perez who may be 5 for 10 against the same guy? I'd like to note however that the "hot hand theory" overrides all statstics. If a guy is flat out mashing the ball, then he needs to play everyday until the streak is over. The point of the game is to score more runs than the other team. Putting your most productive offense out there every night increases your chances of winning the ballgame. It really shouldn't matter who's ego is hurt or caving into backwards logic such as "platooning is gay" and "throw them into water and it's sink or swim." There are better ways of doing things, let's not settle for what's considered the norm or comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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