IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Bruce Levine is reporting that the Cubs are talking about acquiring Nomar Garciaparra. This was on a sportscenter update at 2 on espn1000. No names were mentioned, however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Nomar is one of my fav players but he was wayyy overhyped in Boston. I wonder if Hendry wants him as a rental or will they sign him long term. Jose Valentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Nomar is one of my fav players but he was wayyy overhyped in Boston. I wonder if Hendry wants him as a rental or will they sign him long term. Jose Valentin I'm sure they would try to sign him long term if they bring him over; however, I wonder if Nomar would be interested in staying there or if he's still set on going to the West Coast since he won't be in Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 I wonder what the Cubs would have to give up. I highly doubt the Red Sox are going to want prospects. The Cubs will have to give up some serious pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Clement...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Let the cubs have 'em.....trainwreck waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Clement...? Hopefully it is some of their big prospects. Dry up the farm for a guy who may not resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Hopefully it is some of their big prospects. Dry up the farm for a guy who may not resign. Possibly, but wouldn't you think the BoSox would want some 'impact' players? Some immediate help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Honestly, when have the Cubs ever traded for an all-star the caliber of a Nomar during midseason? Fred McGriff at age 38? It ain't gonna happen, but if it does, they would probably trade Clement and have just as big a stopgap at the #5 spot in the rotation as we did (or still do really with Scotty). Then again, Rusch did pitch the game of his life against us. I'd laugh if that was why they make the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Not saying this story is wrong by any means, but WSCR, the other sports station in Chicago, is not even mentioning this proposed trade. What it COULD be is Levine is in Houston for the All-Star game and the Cubs and Red Sox are have preliminary discussions and they are stressing the story to keep listeners hanging around (Again, not to say this trade won't happen, because I think it could make sense for both teams.) I would think that the Red Sox would need an impact player, probably Clement. They are 6 out in the East and either in the Wild Card lead or within a game or two. I would think they would not just trade him for prospects unless they have a deal to get Cabrerra. Also Hendry could be using this as leverage against the Expos to pull the trigger on a Cabrerra to Cubs trade. (Similar to how people say KW used the Atlanta rumors to push Seattle to make the Garcia trade) Dan Patrick just had Schilling on and nothing was mentioned about it, also the "National" Sportscenter isn't mentioning the rumor. Edit: Just listened to the 2:20 update on AM 1000, now they're using words like "the teams are in discussions." Not using words like "close" or the ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 I don't think Schilling would know about it or be at liberty to say anything about it, really I'm just telling you what i heard on espn, what bruce levine said. I guess they are talking now about a deal. Who knows how close it is to happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 A package of a Clement/AGon/Leicester/Guzman. Leicester pitched pretty good in relief while he was up. I'll take Jose and his shortstop leading 18 homers as well as his clutch ability and leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Illini, Just so you know I didn't write that post to "correct" you or anything. (That's the b**** about the written word, there's no tone to words). I have no doubt that what you wrote is exactly what you heard... ESPN 1000 and all stations mix stuff up to keep listeners all the time. I was just simply giving an update on what I heard and giving my 2 cents on the deal. I actually think this deal may happen, because like I said, both teams can use this deal. I don't want to be labeled as one of those posters who go around correcting other people's posts, I was just adding to the discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 The cubs are NOT getting Nomar. Why would Boston trade him for Clement, when the could get Odalis Perez and 2 prospects from LA (where Nomar wants to go!)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 How do you know LA wants to do that trade this season? Dont be so closed minded about Nomar going to the Cubs. IT COULD happen. Espesially since LA is in the hunt both in the AL West and in the Wild Card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Illini, Just so you know I didn't write that post to "correct" you or anything. (That's the b**** about the written word, there's no tone to words). I have no doubt that what you wrote is exactly what you heard... ESPN 1000 and all stations mix stuff up to keep listeners all the time. I was just simply giving an update on what I heard and giving my 2 cents on the deal. I actually think this deal may happen, because like I said, both teams can use this deal. I don't want to be labeled as one of those posters who go around correcting other people's posts, I was just adding to the discussion No, it's perfectly fine. I just threw it out there to start up conversation about a possible deal, that's all. Instead of just making up rumors (i hate that), once i heard 'official' word talks were happening i figured that would make it 100 times more likely to happen than just fans WANTING it to happen. I understand what you are saying, and i know radio stuff is not 100% accurate to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogs35 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 the way you hear mike o golnik give his sportscenter update sounds like its a done deal. last week i wrote email for the critics at extra large segmnet on mjh and i slammed o golnik for not being a journolist,a broadcaster, and for telling sox fans to shove it a few ago when he was hosting a sunday night show a couple weeks ago. so dont listen to anything this moron has to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Espesially since LA is in the hunt both in the AL West and in the Wild Card. Unless the Angels are now calling themselves the LA Angels, the Dodgers are still in the NL West, not the AL West. I'm thinking Clement and young pitchers that the Cubs have had in the pen and/or AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 I think a Cabrera deal would be a better deal. I doubt they would have to give up a Guzman for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Clement Nomar rumor is kind of old I thought. Maybe with Wood pitching again, the Cubs are now wanting to move Clement over the AS Break, so the team starts with a rotation of: Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Rusch, Maddux If I was the Cubs, I would not trade Clement, but thats just me. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogs35 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 is it me or does nomah not hit outside fenway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Well i decided to look it up Nomar is a career .337 at home and .308 on the road, so not terrible. I know where you get this from, though, because last year's split was: Home, .359 Road, .243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce is on espn radio talking about this Nomar stuff now. Said they won't move any starting pitching whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Said they won't move any starting pitching whatsoever. Well, I guess that means they're not getting Nomar b/c Boston wants pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Well, I guess that means they're not getting Nomar b/c Boston wants pitching. Yeah really. If the Cubs don't give any starters away they'll have to give up 5 prospects, all pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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