upnorthsox Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 It's possible KW feels that way if he thinks the Angels are still a player, if they are then he may be right, but he can really make them pay thru the nose finding out. I'm pretty confident that the Yanks are out of it unless A.) everyone else drops out. Or B.) They trade off their BP(Gordon, Quantrill) to get the prospects to get him. Lieber just ain't gonna go anywhere to bring anything back and not only would it be difficult to orchestrate a triple trade but that may in the end leave them worse off than they are now with all the ouchy starters they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 15, 2004 Author Share Posted July 15, 2004 I have a feeling now this deal might come down to the last few hours of the deadline now, mabye AZ will feel pressured to just get what they can, and they will bite. Or, they just dont end up doing anything, and we got excited for nothing. I agree with the point that nothing may happen. The guy on the Score pointed out that Arizona made a pretty bad deal for Sexon (sp?) and they either have to make a great deal for RJ or just stand-pat and not trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Or B.) They trade off their BP(Gordon, Quantrill) to get the prospects to get him. Lieber just ain't gonna go anywhere to bring anything back and not only would it be difficult to orchestrate a triple trade but that may in the end leave them worse off than they are now with all the ouchy starters they have. trading off their Bullpen is a classic case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Their strength is weakened for an unknown quantifyable improvement. I don't know if the Yankees will be able to find a serious third party to help them out in this trade. NOBODY wants to see them get Johnson, probably least of all Colangelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 All I know is that I don't care who we trade for RJ as long as we keep Willie Harris, Aaron Rowand, and Juan Uribe. These guys are going to be our starters for the next few years and will end up being the new core eventually. Although I have to say the the one true untouchable has to be Aaron Rowand, we just can't replace his defense in CF this year and given that he will hit about .280+ by the end of the year that is not that bad. I also don't want to give up Joe Crede either because he still has plenty of upside to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 If Uribe, Rowand, and Harris are the core of this team at some point...the Sox have huge problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 If Uribe, Rowand, and Harris are the core of this team at some point...the Sox have huge problems Yeah, these three players are not the core of this team. I dont know what this guy is smoking. I think he just says things to say them and to get a rise out of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Kenny would be best to continue to downplay this trade. it would help keep the cost down. He could smoke out the real competition. Yankees and Red Sox are going to have to be REAL creative to be involved. Cubs have no need for RJ unless they're trading Clement to Red Sox for Nomar. Angels are the team that I fear the most. They have the prospects. They have an owner anxious to win. They have a team that could use one more starter, especially with Bartolo pitching like a pig. Kenny could also use this stance to look at other options. and he doesn't want the fan base to start drooling over RJ and then be disappointed. Kenny is playing it smart by staying low-key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 I have a real problem trading Brian Anderson, especially after trading Reed. If the DBacks would take something like a Borchard, Sweeney, Diaz, Pacheco type deal for Randy Johnson (and Steve Finley maybe?) then i would do it....but Brian Anderson i would hope doesnt go anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Yeah, these three players are not the core of this team. I dont know what this guy is smoking. I think he just says things to say them and to get a rise out of people. Ohh please... I'm sure the Arizona GM would love AROW just by himself. Great defensive CF already that is young, can hit .290+ hit 20+ HR's and drive in about 80+ RBI's when put into the right place. The point is that KW can not just give up on him. He's going to put up these numbers somewhere it might as well be for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Ohh please... I'm sure the Arizona GM would love AROW just by himself. Great defensive CF already that is young, can hit .290+ hit 20+ HR's and drive in about 80+ RBI's when put into the right place. The point is that KW can not just give up on him. He's going to put up these numbers somewhere it might as well be for us. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaSoxFan Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Ohh please... I'm sure the Arizona GM would love AROW just by himself. Great defensive CF already that is young, can hit .290+ hit 20+ HR's and drive in about 80+ RBI's when put into the right place. The point is that KW can not just give up on him. He's going to put up these numbers somewhere it might as well be for us. Jeckle, you are a dumbass! :dips*** The DBacks want a future star not a guy you have a man crush on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 I love ARow a lot, but he ain't worth a Number One starting pitcher, especially Randy Johnson. Get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Ohh please... I'm sure the Arizona GM would love AROW just by himself. Great defensive CF already that is young, can hit .290+ hit 20+ HR's and drive in about 80+ RBI's when put into the right place. The point is that KW can not just give up on him. He's going to put up these numbers somewhere it might as well be for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 One other thing: Brian Anderson is an excellent prospect. But that's all he is, a prospect. Randy Johnson is not only a pitcher who can get you to October, he can dominate the post-season. He can win two or even three games in a seven-game series. There are bloody few guys like that. If it costs Brian Anderson to get the Sox to the World Series for the first time since 1959 step up and pay the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 All I know is that I don't care who we trade for RJ as long as we keep Willie Harris, Aaron Rowand, and Juan Uribe. These guys are going to be our starters for the next few years and will end up being the new core eventually. Although I have to say the the one true untouchable has to be Aaron Rowand, we just can't replace his defense in CF this year and given that he will hit about .280+ by the end of the year that is not that bad. I also don't want to give up Joe Crede either because he still has plenty of upside to him. I nominate this for most idiotic post of the year. Aaron Rowand is a 4th outfielder at best. I'm quite glad that you lack the mental capacity to become the Sox GM. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Today I was behind the wheel in drivers ed., and we had on ESPN1000. I heard this report today and I went nuts and I was told to concentrate on driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 I nominate this for most idiotic post of the year. Aaron Rowand is a 4th outfielder at best. I'm quite glad that you lack the mental capacity to become the Sox GM. What a joke. Cerb, I was going to post a response to his post but thought .... naaahhhh, why bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 know what randy johnson once was? a prospect know what barry bonds once was? a prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Today I was behind the wheel in drivers ed., and we had on ESPN1000. I heard this report today and I went nuts and I was told to concentrate on driving. :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Whoever said 1917 was a long time, they are very right. If we got Randy, and gave up some good prospects, I wouldn't be pissed at all. IMO, in baseball, prospects are overrated, and have a low success rate of developing. I'd seriously consider trading Borchard, because I think anderson has more upside than him, but if Randy was pitching for the Sox, I wouldn't care all that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 know what randy johnson once was? a prospect know what barry bonds once was? a prospect Barry Bonds got drafted right after the Sox took Kurt Brown. What could have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Well call me a dumbass but I have no desire to trade ARow either, and I don't think we'd have to. And for those of you wanting to trade Crede I'll be glad to add my own dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Also we still need to sign Maggs, but if we win it all, or atleast go deep, Maggs will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Johnson and Bonds were once prospects. But about 1 of 100 prospects turn into the kinds of players those two guys are. and most people don't project Brian Anderson to hit more than 650 home runs in the big leagues. If it costs Brian Anderson to give us the best five-deep rotation in the AL, do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 know what randy johnson once was? a prospect know what barry bonds once was? a prospect Know what Scott Ruffcorn was? A prospect. Know what Brian West was? A prospect. Know what they became? Suspects. Get me Randy Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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