witesoxfan Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Uribe is not helping this team right now with his cold stick. I think it would be wise of Ozzie to let Uribe take 3-5 games off. We all wanted Ozzie to make Lee sit for watching a ball that ended up staying in the park, and that's fine...but Lee was atleast getting hits, and still is. Uribe tries to put one into the LF seats with seemingly every hack. He needs to know that that will not be accepted, especially when he is not a homer hitter...or not so much that it will not be accepted, just that it does not help the team, and that he will get limited playing time when doing it. I don't give a s*** what kind of funk Harris is in right now, and I don't give a s*** how badly he looks at the plate right now. I'd rather have him up there getting on now and then and helping the team any way he can. Uribe is not helping. Manuel did this with Paulie last year, and it did help a little(then again, Paulie was hitting about .110 for a good stretch of time, that made the decision a lot easier). Paulie started to hit much better over the second half of the year. I think if we do that to Uribe maybe the message will finally get drilled into his head and that he needs to just get base hits and he will be fine. When he was rolling in April and May, he was not trying to kill the ball and hit homers every at bat with every swing, he was getting singles, doubles, hell, even triples. What he's doing now is hurting the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 He needs to stop pulling at the ball, and start to go the other way and hit opposite field drives again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 What has become of Juan Uribe? Games with 2 or more hits through June 22: 25 Games with 2 or more hits since then: 0 He had 24 hits in April, 34 hits in May, and 24 hits in June. Through July 19, he only has 4 hits. I sure as hell hope that he can get it together again, because we really need him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 CASE IN POINT -- If we're relying on or depending on Juan Uribe to be one of our main saviors - we have many more problems than we can even imagine. Welcome to reality, my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 CASE IN POINT -- If we're relying on or depending on Juan Uribe to be one of our main saviors - we have many more problems than we can even imagine. Welcome to reality, my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 CASE IN POINT -- If we're relying on or depending on Juan Uribe to be one of our main saviors - we have many more problems than we can even imagine. Welcome to reality, my friends. I don't think we are relying on him to hit .320, just a decent year of say .275 or .280. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Soxfanforever, Let me dummy this down for you: Uribe was helping to carry our offense when he was hitting .350. He was always on base, or he was driving guys in who WERE on base. He was a key contributor for the Sox offense. Now he's back to his normal numbers - mediocre, and nothing worth a s***. In other words, HE'S NOT GETTING ON BASE, HE'S NOT SCORING RUNS, DRIVING IN RUNS. Or to put it mildly - HE'S SLUMPING HORRIBLY, AND WE WERE RELYING ON HIM TO SCORE RUNS, DRIVE IN RUNS, or CREATE RUNS WHEN OUR OFFENSE WAS FLYING HIGH. To dummy it down EVEN FURTHER - when Uribe good, White Sox good. When Uribe bad, White Sox bad. I would show you how to light a fire with a couple of rocks and a stick, but I didn't want to drag my intelligence down to the level of humans circa 3400 B.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Let me dummy this down for you: Uribe was carrying our offense when he was hitting .350. He was always on base, or he was driving guys in who WERE on base. He was a key contributor for the Sox offense. Now he's back to his normal numbers - mediocre, and nothing worth a s***. In other words, HE'S NOT GETTING ON BASE, HE'S NOT SCORING RUNS, DRIVING IN RUNS, or HE'S SLUMPING HORRIBLY, AND WE WERE RELYING ON HIM TO SCORE RUNS, DRIVE IN RUNS, or CREATE RUNS WHEN OUR OFFENSE WAS FLYING HIGH. To dummy it down EVEN FURTHER - when Uribe good, White Sox good. When Uribe bad, White Sox bad. I would show you how to light a fire with a couple of rocks and a stick, but I didn't want to drag my intelligence down to the level of humans circa 3400 B.C. Basically your saying if he hits below .350 for the rest of the year we will play like s*** for the rest of the year. If he hits .280 i think everyone will be pretty damn happy since he was just suppose to be a utility player in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Once again - and think about this - REALLY think about this - If you are relying on Juan Uribe to carry your team - you are in a lot of trouble. But keep on defending our "bench player gone starter." Don't blame me, for cry's sake. Blame the GM. He's the one responsible for the roster, which is nothing more than the same damn roster we had under "Sleepy" Manuel. The best way I can put it is "SSDD." Same s***, Different Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 uribe is a career 262 hitter playing in the best hitters parks in all of baseball (im counting sox park this year since it looks like coors east )....i imagine if someone went over to the rockies board and asked them about uribe they would say he is a very streaky player..can carry the team for a while and then go in a long funk..a very frustrating player offensively...im guessing this is a pretty typical year for uribe with a positive being his power numbers are now career highs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 The point is that Harris needs to be in the lineup everyday. At least Willie tries to do the little things. He did nothing but bust his ass for this team and hit .300 doing it and he ended up getting benched and screwed around. Then he slumps because he's not getting regular playing time and people act like it's his fault. Willie deserves to be our second basemen and I think with regular playing time he can get back up to .290+. I'm not sure the same can be said for Uribe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 CASE IN POINT -- If we're relying on or depending on Juan Uribe to be one of our main saviors - we have many more problems than we can even imagine. Welcome to reality, my friends. Someone tried to tell Kenny and Ozzie this at Soxfest... rolleyeyes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Once again - and think about this - REALLY think about this - If you are relying on Juan Uribe to carry your team - you are in a lot of trouble. But keep on defending our "bench player gone starter." Don't blame me, for cry's sake. Blame the GM. He's the one responsible for the roster, which is nothing more than the same damn roster we had under "Sleepy" Manuel. The best way I can put it is "SSDD." Same s***, Different Day. I know exactly what you're trying to say here Pastime. Uribe was brought here really just to replace Tony Graffanino and his numbers. We just needed Uribe to be that utility guy off the bench. Though his numbers have dipped; he's exceeded what Tony G would have done at this point in the season 1000 times. WSF is right; we just need to give Uribe some time off. He's already done his job and then some up to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Someone tried to tell Kenny and Ozzie this at Soxfest... rolleyeyes.gif That was me ... oh no wait, it was that freak across the aisle ... errr, no, it was ... oh heck, I can't remember. Was it you, Steff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 All the talk about Uribe playing third for the majority of games is just non sense. He is not hitting. I've never seen so many pop ups from a hitter in my life. Mechanically, his swing is pure garbage. If his swing is garbage and he's hitting .300, fine by me. But in the midst of a huge slump...something has to change. His swing is better suited for a 16 inch softball player. I don't know if he needs a complete overhaul, but something has to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 That was me ... oh no wait, it was that freak across the aisle ... errr, no, it was ... oh heck, I can't remember. Was it you, Steff? I think it might have been the freak that started it.. but then got shoved back under his rock... Actually I commented about this on day 2. It was my "calm" day.. LOL. I'm sick of friggin experiments out there. We're going for a WS with Willie Harris and Juan Uribe..?? Does anyone else giggle when they say that out loud...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 I think it might have been the freak that started it.. but then got shoved back under his rock... Actually I commented about this on day 2. It was my "calm" day.. LOL. "Kenny, I'm not finished" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 "Kenny, I'm not finished" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Steff, aren't your 15 minutes up yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Steff, aren't your 15 minutes up yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 I think it might have been the freak that started it.. but then got shoved back under his rock... Actually I commented about this on day 2. It was my "calm" day.. LOL. I'm sick of friggin experiments out there. We're going for a WS with Willie Harris and Juan Uribe..?? Does anyone else giggle when they say that out loud...??? Steff, I see where your coming from but the yankees have Miguel Cairo and Enrique Wilson playing 2nd base. The red sox have mark bellhorn and pokie reese playing 2nd base, granted bellhorn is having a solid year but can very much fall off at the dish as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Steff, I see where your coming from but the yankees have Miguel Cairo and Enrique Wilson playing 2nd base. The red sox have mark bellhorn and pokie reese playing 2nd base, granted bellhorn is having a solid year but can very much fall off at the dish as well. And they have 7 other all stars to pick up the slack. I'd be a lot more comfortable with 2 "rookies" or "grinders" if the 7 other members of the team had a clue what being a winning team felt like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 And they have 7 other all stars to pick up the slack. I'd be a lot more comfortable with 2 "rookies" or "grinders" if the 7 other members of the team had a clue what being a winning team felt like. Fair enough. My point is that even a team with a 200 million dollar payroll do have holes but yes your right we don't have 7 other superstars around these two and they definitely have been awful lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Fair enough. My point is that even a team with a 200 million dollar payroll do have holes but yes your right we don't have 7 other superstars around these two and they definitely have been awful lately. I agree with you that anything can happen and they could get lucky.. but I just don't see it happening wth these guys. They are not "geling". They all appear to be playing a different game. With the Yanks.. they have a common goal and work together to accomplish it. Example.. Aaron.. Aaron is at the park hours before a game to work on his hitting. It's starting to pay off for him. The other slackers... can't be bothered with getting to the park early for some self induced practice. That tells me they are OK with being "OK" at this point. Not good enough. Get your asses out there and figure out what the hell is wrong, fix it.. and win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Example.. Aaron.. Aaron is at the park hours before a game to work on his hitting. It's starting to pay off for him. That is exactly why I want Aaron on this team for the future. The guy got his chance and he is doing everything he can with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.