Texsox Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Now you are arguing something totally different.. No, it's all part of the same problem. We are stating on one hand that salespeople have a moral responsibility to judge the economic condition of the person in front of them, and only take as much money as the person wants to give, especially if the person appears homeless. Hello and welcome to McDonalds, before you order, may I see your net worth statement? You appear homeless and should be buying fresh food at Jewel, not overpriced fats and sugars at McDonalds. God help the McDonald's clerk that asks if he wants fries with that. That would be asking for more money than he wants to spend. On the other hand we are saying that the same homeless person that must be protected from solicitors asking for $2, should be allowed to fend for themselves. That seems wrong to me. If we have people in our society that cannot make a $2 decision, they should be given some help and not left to fend for themselves. They are incapable of surviving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 The question is how do you help them. So many of them are so screwed up in the head that the only way to help them is to put them into some sort of institution, but without permission and what not thats not something we can do and I think a lot of people would be inredibly upset if the US started doing that. Personally I think institutionalizing those that are way screwed up wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, because I think it would be expensive, but at the same time cut costs of af lot of other things like crime and what not down (What can I say, I really don't have that much respect for a lot of homeless people...their are some I do have respect for, but its few and far between). Too often have I handed a dollar or two only to see the guy go across the street and by some booze to solve his problems. After that I basically stopped giving out anything. I'd rather just do something that helps the poor without giving them my money directly. Plus, I just have to ask this question...how hard is it to get off your ass and get a job at McDonalds? Sure your not going to make a lot of money, but damn it its a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 The question is how do you help them. So many of them are so screwed up in the head that the only way to help them is to put them into some sort of institution, but without permission and what not thats not something we can do and I think a lot of people would be inredibly upset if the US started doing that. Personally I think institutionalizing those that are way screwed up wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, because I think it would be expensive, but at the same time cut costs of af lot of other things like crime and what not down (What can I say, I really don't have that much respect for a lot of homeless people...their are some I do have respect for, but its few and far between). Too often have I handed a dollar or two only to see the guy go across the street and by some booze to solve his problems. After that I basically stopped giving out anything. I'd rather just do something that helps the poor without giving them my money directly. Plus, I just have to ask this question...how hard is it to get off your ass and get a job at McDonalds? Sure your not going to make a lot of money, but damn it its a job. Can I have a dollar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Pssst. Yea. With those 19,000 posts it's obvious you don't have a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 Pssst. Yea. With those 19,000 posts it's obvious you don't have a job. [cough]100,000 posts [cough] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Too often have I handed a dollar or two only to see the guy go across the street and by some booze to solve his problems. At least he's being proactive in his problem solving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Pssst. Yea. With those 19,000 posts it's obvious you don't have a job. LMAO...the beauty of loan processing. Lots of down time, so I might as well entertain myself. I've often thought about getting Xtra innings online just so I can watch the games from my office, but then I thought about it and realized I wouldn't get anything done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 LMAO...the beauty of loan processing. Lots of down time, so I might as well entertain myself. I've often thought about getting Xtra innings online just so I can watch the games from my office, but then I thought about it and realized I wouldn't get anything done. And that's a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 And that's a problem? I wouldn't be complaining if I were paid salary, but since its comission, I gotta make sure I stay at least partially involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I wouldn't be complaining if I were paid salary, but since its comission, I gotta make sure I stay at least partially involved. OK. Makes sense now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 OK. Makes sense now. However it works nice, when it is slow, I can kind of do my own thing and show up when I want. The beauties of being a loan officer for my own clients and a processor for a few of the agents at the office I'm at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 IlliniKrush took the words out of my mouth, but just said it a little better than I would. Definitely a little "cleaner".. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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