Spiff Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I now a bunch that travel to see the White Sox play. College football fans travel a lot to see their teams play. I definately don't think there are more people that enjoy or are a fan of NASCAR than baseball or football. l also think pro wrestling outdraws all of them. Is pro wrestling a sport? I think not. I think they get so much s*** for it because of the stereotypes surrounding it. All of the people that I know that like it do fit that stereotype. That and they keep on wanting to push it and claim it as a sport when it really shouldn't be classified as one. Classify it as anything else they want and if they enjoy it then they shouldn't care what it is classified as, so I don't know why many of them feel the need to push it as a sport. Yeah Steff, and like millions of people travel to go to church every weekend, I bet church is attended even more attended than nascar. But church isn't a sport, is it? Noo. Therefore, nascar is not a sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Oh god...Spiffs post count is going to double...I know you love these nascar threads You need to ask Ian about my argument on why Nascar isn't a sport during the roadtrip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yeah Steff, and like millions of people travel to go to church every weekend, I bet church is attended even more attended than nascar. But church isn't a sport, is it? Noo. Therefore, nascar is not a sport. Now how did that make sense? By travel I don't mean going to Sox Park. I mean going to Detroit, Cleveland, Minnesota, New York, Oakland. Tons of people do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Now how did that make sense? By travel I don't mean going to Sox Park. I mean going to Detroit, Cleveland, Minnesota, New York, Oakland. Tons of people do it. I travel to Pennsylvania every weekend to go to church, are you saying im not as dedicated as a baseball fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I travel to Pennsylvania every weekend to go to church, are you saying im not as dedicated as a baseball fan? Am I saying that NASCAR fans are not as dedicated as baseball fans? Am I saying that NASCAR is not a sport because of fan dedication or attendance? What are you talking about? I don't think you know how we got on the subject of attendance or what I am even talking about when it comes to attendance between the sports. You are assuming things that I am talking about and that is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 anyone want to figure out what the universal identifiers of "sport" is? My first description is competition and keeping score. There has to be a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Apparently you know nothing about driving in NASCAR. I still don't understand why so many shorts are in a wad over it. I can't stand basketball or golf, but panties don't get in a twist over it... Here's what I do know...NASCAR is a "redneck sport". It takes very little athletic ability to drive a racecar in a circle. You can be a 300 lb slob, and still be a NASCAR driver...all you have to be able to do is fit in the car, the car itself does most of the work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Here's what I do know...NASCAR is a "redneck sport". It takes very little athletic ability to drive a racecar in a circle. You can be a 300 lb slob, and still be a NASCAR driver...all you have to be able to do is fit in the car, the car itself does most of the work! I guess Brian and I are rednecks then. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Here's what I do know...NASCAR is a "redneck sport". It takes very little athletic ability to drive a racecar in a circle. You can be a 300 lb slob, and still be a NASCAR driver...all you have to be able to do is fit in the car, the car itself does most of the work! For a guy who gets mad about stereotypes you sure like to throw them at other people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I now a bunch that travel to see the White Sox play. College football fans travel a lot to see their teams play. I definately don't think there are more people that enjoy or are a fan of NASCAR than baseball or football. l also think pro wrestling outdraws all of them. Is pro wrestling a sport? I think not. I think they get so much s*** for it because of the stereotypes surrounding it. All of the people that I know that like it do fit that stereotype. That and they keep on wanting to push it and claim it as a sport when it really shouldn't be classified as one. Classify it as anything else they want and if they enjoy it then they shouldn't care what it is classified as, so I don't know why many of them feel the need to push it as a sport. I don't feel the need to push NASCAR as a sport. I think more people feel the need to clasify it as a non-sport. Anytime we start a thread on here, someone always hijacks the thread and asks, 'Why is this in "The Sports Bar?"" It gets old. Someone said earlier, if you don't like it, stay away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yeah Steff, and like millions of people travel to go to church every weekend, I bet church is attended even more attended than nascar. But church isn't a sport, is it? Noo. Therefore, nascar is not a sport. That's just plain stupid and totally ignores Steff's point, which was answering a previou question about the media calling Auot Racing the Number 1 spectator sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Here's what I do know...NASCAR is a "redneck sport". It takes very little athletic ability to drive a racecar in a circle. You can be a 300 lb slob, and still be a NASCAR driver...all you have to be able to do is fit in the car, the car itself does most of the work! Yee haw, mothf***er! :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 For a guy who gets mad about stereotypes you sure like to throw them at other people If anyone has ever done or read anything about the demographics of NASCAR fans, I am sure you will not find a whole lot of African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, etc. NASCAR began in the Southern US, and it's fan base is primarily Southern white males. I apologize for using the term "rednecks", it was insensitive, and I did not wish to offend anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 If anyone has ever done or read anything about the demographics of NASCAR fans, I am sure you will not find a whole lot of African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, etc. NASCAR began in the Southern US, and it's fan base is primarily Southern white males. I apologize for using the term "rednecks", it was insensitive, and I did not wish to offend anyone. Apology accepted, but I think you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. A couple weeks ago, I heard Boers and Bernstein on WSCR talking about the origins of NASCAR...they said it originated by southern bootleggers driving souped up cars to outrun the law. I don't know if this is true, but, it does make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yee haw, mothf***er! :fyou BTW...I may have f**ked a lot of things in my life, but, I have never f**ked a moth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. A couple weeks ago, I heard Boers and Bernstein on WSCR talking about the origins of NASCAR...they said it originated by southern bootleggers driving souped up cars to outrun the law. I don't know if this is true, but, it does make sense. Yes, it's true. I have yet to hear how it evolved into what it is today, but I've heard that story many many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 BTW...I may have f**ked a lot of things in my life, but, I have never f**ked a moth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yes, it's true. I have yet to hear how it evolved into what it is today, but I've heard that story many many times. They did a history of NASCAR on the History Channel. That is the origins of NASCAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Snip.. I don't know why many of them feel the need to push it as a sport. I don't know anyone who preaches about something so much that they claim to dislike so much... Why don't you just worry about the things that you consider a sport and leave the 90 million people that like NASCAR alone? rolleyeyes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I don't know anyone who preaches about something so much that they claim to dislike so much... Why don't you just worry about the things that you consider a sport and leave the 90 million people that like NASCAR alone? rolleyeyes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 That's just plain stupid and totally ignores Steff's point, which was answering a previou question about the media calling Auot Racing the Number 1 spectator sport. Which... according to ESPN, is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. A couple weeks ago, I heard Boers and Bernstein on WSCR talking about the origins of NASCAR...they said it originated by southern bootleggers driving souped up cars to outrun the law. I don't know if this is true, but, it does make sense. Organized racing actually started on the beaches down in Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 I don't know anyone who preaches about something so much that they claim to dislike so much... Why don't you just worry about the things that you consider a sport and leave the 90 million people that like NASCAR alone? rolleyeyes.gif Pet peeve. 90 million in attendance, doesn't mean 90 million people go to NASCAR... Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Pet peeve. 90 million in attendance, doesn't mean 90 million people go to NASCAR... Carry on. OK.. a lot more than 90 million then since it's likely that most of those redneck fans don't have the scratch to travel to the races. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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