Queen Prawn Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Not really. The guy is an asshole. He deserves it. Why was he suspended? I didn't think he was that bad (or at least in comparison to other banned posters, lol), I think more people took him seriously than he intended in his comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Well i think Brando is a good baseball mind but goes about his business the wrong way. If your opinion differed from his, he attacked you in a personal way - at least that's my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 His comment to the Critic in the disco demolition thread, "Admit it, are you a n***** or a f*g?" got him banned. He claims it was in jest, and I would tend to believe him, but it got him a month-long suspension nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 His comment to the Critic in the disco demolition thread, "Admit it, are you a n***** or a f*g?" got him banned. He claims it was in jest, and I would tend to believe him, but it got him a month-long suspension nonetheless. Damn. Didn't think he would push it that far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 If the Cubs and Cards are playing in the playoffs, we'll be seeing the Cardinals in the world series. Every Cub fan keeps saying, "yeah, well give me a healthy Wood and Prior and we'll beat those guys." I'm sorry, but you're not going to see a healthy Wood and Prior, and realistically, you're not going to see those guys again this year. The Cubs are just... so dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Cubs are already down 2-0 to the Reds. lol. I couldn't have scripted this collapse any better if I tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I wouldnt write STL's ticket to the World Series just yet. ATL and FLA could beat them in the playoffs, as the Braves and Florida have much better pitching staffs, with fair to above average offenses. Last year ATL was the best offense, and got beat by the Cubs because of pitching, you could see that happen to STL. Also, STL will have a large problem in the WS, because any AL team they are going to go up against potentially should have atleast some favorable match ups (outside of Texas who would just try and outslug them.) The Red Sox, Yanks, White Sox, Angels would have the offense to match up, and have considerable pitching advantages. Where as the A's would just have much much better pitching. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I don't think Atlanta's pitching is better than St. Louis' pitching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 We tried to tell them, Rowand. They wouldn't listen. They fell for all the media hype. Peter Gammons pickin them to go to the series. The cover of si. I mean everybody was pickin them. But I knew better. They are the CUBS. No matter what. They will always be the CUBS. They will always find someway to f*** it up. Last years playoffs collapse wasn't a fluke. They're the CUBS. I hate to do this...I would love to enjoy the Cubs losing...but before the season started, no one knew that Prior would go down(they were depending on him to be an ace) and no one knew that Wood would go down a month or two into the season(they were depending on him to be a second ace). People figured Corey Patterson would have been a lot better then has been, they figured SamME would not sneeze and throw out his back, hell, they even figured Derrek Lee would hit more then 5 homers in the first two months of the year. The Cubs had probably the best 1-5 rotation in the majors(and still do when healthy) going into the year, along with an improved bullpen and an improved offense, coming off a 95 win season and being 5 outs away from going to the series and essentially winning it all. Meanwhile, the Cardinals rotation looked like s***...Morris and Williams were looking like a decent 1-2, but then you had Suppan, Carpenter, and Marquis - not exactly a rock solid rotation going in. And then Morris lost velocity and Williams turned to s***...if you told someone that Morris and Williams would not be nearly as good as last year along with Carpenter-Marquis-Suppan, someone would probably guess that they could be a sub-.500 team, even with a very good offense. Luckily, Carpenter, Suppan, and Marquis have been very solid, the offense was even more explosive then it was last year, and the bullpen has been surprisingly good. Regardless...even considering the Cards have basically shut the Cubs the f*** up and have practically clinched the NL Central, the Cubs are not dead...not as long as the Wild Card exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Cubs down 4-2 to the Reds. This is comedy. They just tied the game up at 2, Then Clement goes right back out and gives the 2 runs back. This team is dead. Too bad the Sox suck ass too. I would enjoy this more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I hate to do this...I would love to enjoy the Cubs losing...but before the season started, no one knew that Prior would go down(they were depending on him to be an ace) and no one knew that Wood would go down a month or two into the season(they were depending on him to be a second ace). People figured Corey Patterson would have been a lot better then has been, they figured SamME would not sneeze and throw out his back, hell, they even figured Derrek Lee would hit more then 5 homers in the first two months of the year. The Cubs had probably the best 1-5 rotation in the majors(and still do when healthy) going into the year, along with an improved bullpen and an improved offense, coming off a 95 win season and being 5 outs away from going to the series and essentially winning it all. Meanwhile, the Cardinals rotation looked like s***...Morris and Williams were looking like a decent 1-2, but then you had Suppan, Carpenter, and Marquis - not exactly a rock solid rotation going in. And then Morris lost velocity and Williams turned to s***...if you told someone that Morris and Williams would not be nearly as good as last year along with Carpenter-Marquis-Suppan, someone would probably guess that they could be a sub-.500 team, even with a very good offense. Luckily, Carpenter, Suppan, and Marquis have been very solid, the offense was even more explosive then it was last year, and the bullpen has been surprisingly good. Regardless...even considering the Cards have basically shut the Cubs the f*** up and have practically clinched the NL Central, the Cubs are not dead...not as long as the Wild Card exists. Wite, I actually think a lot of people predicted the injuries to their pitching staff. Obviously no one predicted the sammy sneeze but look what happens when you do steroids. Anyways, nobody thought the cards would be this good and I definitely thought the cubs were a better team but I also the thought the astros were better then the flubs. However my point was that some people were making them out to be a lock because they're talented but they don't have a leadoff hitter and they have no closer, which right now is making them have basically no good relievers because Hawkins sucks as a closer. I actually told a lot of my friends that their offense reminded me a ton of last years sox offense at the start which would hurt them a lot, all right handed power with no true leadoff man. Basically the point I was making is talent isn't everything and every sox fan should know that. I just thought and think their offense is constructed poorly which is going to put them through those prolounged slumps and with borowski pitching poorly to start and then going down their bullpen becomes a complete liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 f***. They just tied it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 TERRIBLE call from the homeplate umpire ending the Top of the 7th. Bases loaded, full count, rain steadily falling on the urinal, and the bastard calls out Vander Wal on an obvious ball. Replays validated the Cubs gift call; Barrett clearly dragged his mit back into the strikezone. :fthecubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I hate to do this...I would love to enjoy the Cubs losing...but before the season started, no one knew that Prior would go down(they were depending on him to be an ace) and no one knew that Wood would go down a month or two into the season(they were depending on him to be a second ace). People figured Corey Patterson would have been a lot better then has been, they figured SamME would not sneeze and throw out his back, hell, they even figured Derrek Lee would hit more then 5 homers in the first two months of the year. The Cubs had probably the best 1-5 rotation in the majors(and still do when healthy) going into the year, along with an improved bullpen and an improved offense, coming off a 95 win season and being 5 outs away from going to the series and essentially winning it all. Meanwhile, the Cardinals rotation looked like s***...Morris and Williams were looking like a decent 1-2, but then you had Suppan, Carpenter, and Marquis - not exactly a rock solid rotation going in. And then Morris lost velocity and Williams turned to s***...if you told someone that Morris and Williams would not be nearly as good as last year along with Carpenter-Marquis-Suppan, someone would probably guess that they could be a sub-.500 team, even with a very good offense. Luckily, Carpenter, Suppan, and Marquis have been very solid, the offense was even more explosive then it was last year, and the bullpen has been surprisingly good. Regardless...even considering the Cards have basically shut the Cubs the f*** up and have practically clinched the NL Central, the Cubs are not dead...not as long as the Wild Card exists. And that my friend is why the game is not played on paper. As a Sox fan you should know that better than most. As far as nobody predicting Prior or Wood goin down. Well Wood has an injury history. And that's before Dusty. No shock there. Prior goin down? Considering all the pitches he threw last year isn't a shock either. Corey Patterson? Considering he was coming back from a season ending injury that requierd surgery, I don't see it as a shock that's he's not lived up to expectations. To go along with the fact that he has the plate discipline of lets say, Joe Crede? Sosa sneezing? lol. I can't even comment on that one. But I will say this. Their offense was better when Sosa was out. Hollansworth or however you spell his name did a fine job replacing Sosa. So you can only go so far with that. Lee got off to a slow start. But the guy is hitting over .300 now. The Cubs won 95 gms? Make that 88. And sure. They probably shoud've gotten to the series and won. But they choked. And like you said. EVERYBODY was picking them. I don't care what anybody says. It's alot easier being the underdog then it is when you're the favorites. Some teams can handle big time expectaions "Yankees". Some teams crumble "Cubs". The Cubs are mentally weak. When things don't go their way they panic and fall apart. I knew the Cubs would crumble. I didn't think it would be this bad. But i've seen enough and witnessed enough to know that somehow, someway, the Cubs will f*** up. As far as the Cards go. You're right. Coming into the season not a whole lot of people thought they would contend. They have the best offense and defense in the league, to go along with a pretty solid pen. The question was their starting pitching after Morris. Funny thing is. Morris has probably been their WORST starter. Suppan, Marquis, And Carpenter have been outstanding. Can they keep it up? Maybe. There's no reason to believe they can't. But consider this. What if Morris and Woody do get back to pitching like they're capable? That will make up for any slippage by the other 3. The Cards r just a good team. Better than the Cubs. On Paper? Probably not. But overall? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 TERRIBLE call from the homeplate umpire ending the Top of the 7th. Bases loaded, full count, rain steadily falling on the urinal, and the bastard calls out Vander Wal on an obvious ball. Replays validated the Cubs gift call; Barrett clearly dragged his mit back into the strikezone. :fthecubs Damn. I didn't even see that. That's f***ed up. But god knows the Slubs need all the help they can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Cubs win. But so do the Cards . Woody Williams was outstanding. If he and Morris get it going they'll be unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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