DaSoxDaSoxDaaaaaaaBears Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Im also new, I heard about this on the MLB boards, which are horrible, whats wsi, i never heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Brandon Mcarthy, Jeff Bajerno(sp) Damn, way to butcher their names.. BTW, Wyatt Allen also post here. But other prospects know eigher about the site, or futuresox thanx to the admins who interview them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Im also new, I heard about this on the MLB boards, which are horrible, whats wsi, i never heard of it. It's another whitesox site for fans (but this one is way better ) As a matter of fact, never heard of it till about october of last year. I was a former poster on the aol boards way back when. (I was the first to say that Carlso Beltran would be a stud ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 It will be don't worry, or Joe Mauer if he gets hot. If Shingo was playing for the Yankees, then you would hav an argument. Mauer was the bset bet but got hurt AGAIN. Crosby is good. But if Shingo saves 25 ballgames and has a 1 something ERA he sould get a look. The 3rd baseman for the Orioles is going nuts too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 I still believe that a player who has played in the majors somewhere else, shouldn't be allowed to win ROY. Either that or establish an age limit. I agree with the first part, but an age limit for ROY is going way too far. I have no problem if someone who's been in the minors for 20 years becomes a stud in the majors, as unlikely as that sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Why has no one mentioned Lew Ford's name? From what I read on Baseball-Almanac'ssite for rookie of the year's, he should be...here is an excerpt... "Eligibility requirements were set forth in 1971 and a rookie was formally defined as a player with less than one-hundred thirty at-bats, a pitcher with less than fifty innings pitched, or anyone with less than forty-five days on any Major League roster." Unless he was up for 45 days, he should be a rookie. Last year he only played in 34 games and had 73 AB's. If he is a rookie, his .308 12 47 .876 should definately be considered, and IMO is the best. If Ford truly is a rookie, there is not much of an argument for Crosby. The only thing he has better then Ford is homers(14-12). Ford beats him in average(308-268), in RBI(47-41), in runs(52-44), SBs(13-6), CS(1-3), BB's(36-27), K's(43-81), OBP(.383-.329), SLG%(.493-.470), and OPS(.876-.799). I hate to sound like I'm on the Twins bandwagon...because quite frankly, I'm not...but Lew Ford is having one hell of a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 I agree with the first part, but an age limit for ROY is going way too far. I have no problem if someone who's been in the minors for 20 years becomes a stud in the majors, as unlikely as that sounds. Why is it going too far? IIRC, the NHL has an age limit for rookies(I believe 26). Why can't the majors? Because maybe Jamie Burke or Ryan Newhan, who have spent nearly their entire career in the minors, come up and play very well? I wouldn't mind an age limit. There's nothing wrong with that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Victor Martinez...it has to be him. If Shingo dominates down the stretch and helps get the team into the postseason, he may have a shot though. Victor..... No! (Hawk's Voice) http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats_hi...playerID=400121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 so scotty podsednik wasn't a rookie last year? Give me a break... so, in the NL, i really like Khalil Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I said no with Matsui last year, so same goes with Takatsu this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Victor Martinez gets my vote too. Catchers are the most underated players in the game and to do what he's doing offensively as well as being behind the dish, it's amazing for a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Victor Martinez gets my vote too. Catchers are the most underated players in the game and to do what he's doing offensively as well as being behind the dish, it's amazing for a rookie. I agree they are the most underated, but the most important. He is also my top pick, then it would be ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Victor is not eligable. Sorry to be the bear of bad news. BTW, it could eigher be Ford, as wite said, or Shingo who is also deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Victor is not eligable. Sorry to be the bear of bad news. BTW, it could eigher be Ford, as wite said, or Shingo who is also deserving. Damn your right he had too many at-bats last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 If that's the case I would go with Ford, Shingo, or Bobby C. Lots of contenders this season with a lot of future stars in the AL Central as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 If Mauer did not get hurt this season, he would get the award hands down. He is that good for a 21 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 If Mauer did not get hurt this season, he would get the award hands down. He is that good for a 21 year old. The way Mauer has developed is stranger then hell. In his entire minor league career, he hit 9 homers, and his season high was 4. This year, in not even half a year, he has 5. He is real damn good...being up here in ND, watching him play, it is insane...you can just tell this kid is going to be a stud. He looks very good at the plate for a 21-year old...looks almost like he's a veteran. He will be a force to be reckoned with for 20 years or so. Mauer, then Prior, then Brazelton, 1-2-3...that was one stacked draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 This year, in not even half a year, he has 5. He has 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 He has 6. Eh, blow me :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Are you guys sure Lew is eligible? He seemed to be around a while last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Are you guys sure Lew is eligible? He seemed to be around a while last year. Yeah, he only had 69 at-bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Yeah, he only had 69 at-bats. Fair enough, for some reason I thought he was around longer last year but I guess I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I think Shingo should be in contention. HOWEVER, i would not vote for him for the same reason i didnt think Matsui should have won it (and he didnt). These guys arent rookies. The ROY award is an honor and as such it should be given to the most deserved rookie. These guys played professional baseball for years, and dam good pro ball at that. They are in a new league, but in my eyes, they arent really "rookies" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I doubt Shingo will get it because he's a closer and doesn't play everyday and wasn't even the closer until June or so. Crosby is also having a good year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I don't think they deserve to be called rookies either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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