Steff Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 call up mariotti and tell him Hmmm.. no thanks. I'd rather shove wood shims under my nails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hmmm.. no thanks. I'd rather shove wood shims under my nails. whatever floats your boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUBUCKS2 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 in the top of the 9th, i actually figured that the only reason Hunter swung at the first pitch that was a little outside was because he didnt wanna get plunked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Mariotti Quote. That was so un intentional! You Sox fans don't know what you are talking about! It was an aggressive play, and Burke got his ass handed to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 127 row 5 Near Terry's seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 You had to know Kotex Boy would be eating this up. He's a moron. Who cares what he has to say anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Near Terry's seats No. He is in 129 up several rows, correct? Where we sat last night is nearer to our season seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 BTW/FYI...in the paper it says that an unidentified Sox player said Jackson did not throw at Hunter cuz they are friends from back in Mike's Twins days. I didn't read it, Bernstien just did over the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 No. He is in 129 up several rows, correct? Where we sat last night is nearer to our season seats. Oh, he's actually in 125...I just knew you were near us...and that one time you called during the Sox/Cubs game. I think he has different seats than his season ticket ones, maybe, forsay the companies. That was quite a meeting, Koch this, Terry and I being the pessimists. And as for me, being frustrated, asking for them to throw at Sosa, boy was I pissed at that game. No doubt, we came back and won the next two. :fthecubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 BTW/FYI...in the paper it says that an unidentified Sox player said Jackson did not throw at Hunter cuz they are friends from back in Mike's Twins days. I didn't read it, Bernstien just did over the air. Yeah, it was some northwest indiana paper i think? That's pretty interesting stuff right there. Hopefully the article can be found. Edit: I believe it said something like he 'wouldn't' throw at hunter, not he didn't or refused. I guess he made a friendship with him in 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Oh, he's actually in 125...I just knew you were near us...and that one time you called during the Sox/Cubs game. I think he has different seats than his season ticket ones, maybe, forsay the companies. That was quite a meeting, Koch this, Terry and I being the pessimists. And as for me, being frustrated, asking for them to throw at Sosa, boy was I pissed at that game. No doubt, we came back and won the next two. :fthecubs I meant 125.. I keep forgetting the #'s go down to the right not the left.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 While it was a sad event, the move by Hunter is a sign of desperation. If the Twins think they can outlast the Sox, they are not going to be cheap shotting us, they are going to try and beat us on the field. Even in a game where they were winning, they needed to make a "bigger" statement because we had already stuck it to them so many other times. If anything it shows a lack of confidence by the Twins. They realize that they are not as talented as they have been in the past, and with their second half schedule, they need much more distance between themselves and the Sox. It is my belief that all retaliating would of done was fire up the Twins at that moment, so we might as well be the team that is all fired up and ready to go, as opposed to the team that will be looking over their shoulder the rest of the series. By not addressing it last night, the question is not if, but when. Id rather have inspired play, then vengeful play. Plenty of season left, and burying Hunter wont be that hard. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 BTW/FYI...in the paper it says that an unidentified Sox player said Jackson did not throw at Hunter cuz they are friends from back in Mike's Twins days. I didn't read it, Bernstien just did over the air. I think that's a given. Even if it wasn't said. Now.. if a Sox player DID say this... IMO he should have his ass kicked. They need to stop following Kenny's lead as the team big mouth and deal with this crap in house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I meant 125.. I keep forgetting the #'s go down to the right not the left.. Steffy, showing the blondeness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Steffy, showing the blondeness... Or the exhaustion. I need a nap if I'm going to stay awake for the game tonight.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I think that's a given. Even if it wasn't said. Now.. if a Sox player DID say this... IMO he should have his ass kicked. They need to stop following Kenny's lead as the team big mouth and deal with this crap in house. I agree with this, it should be kept between the players, not in the press. Earlier in one of the threads, I'd mentioned that Jackson and Hunter are friends. I was disappointed but not shocked Jackson didn't drill him. Seems to me you can be friends off the field, between the lines it's business ... or it's supposed to be anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Like Ozzie said, it would be a call from the dugout. I would hope it would be a call from the dugout in almost all situations - not the player taking it upon himself to drill a guy. So i think this whole thing is irrelevant. Ozzie appears to have never called for a beaning of Hunter, so Jackson never did. I can almost guarantee you that if Jackson was ordered to drill Hunter, he would have. Or he'd be out of a job instantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What if the roles were reveresed and the Sox guy did this to the Twins catcher? I have a strange feeling most here would be saying "it's no big deal, it's baseball, etc etc etc etc" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What if the roles were reveresed and the Sox guy did this to the Twins catcher? I have a strange feeling most here would be saying "it's no big deal, it's baseball, etc etc etc etc" You're probably correct...but then again my Hypocrisy knows no bounds..hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What if the roles were reveresed and the Sox guy did this to the Twins catcher? I have a strange feeling most here would be saying "it's no big deal, it's baseball, etc etc etc etc" To be perfectly unbiased, i'd kind of be so-so on it. I like the good hard baseball play that the play was, i just feel it was unnecessary and was a possible injury risk. I never like guys trying to injure other guys in any capacity, really. I'd kind of bite my tongue if one of our guys pulled that off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 If the Sox were to have done something like Hunter did last nite, I would say we got the run home, we sent a message and we went out of the way to drill the catcher. And I would fully expect the other team to knock one of our best hitters on his ass. If the Sox retaliate against the Twins tonite or another nite, I will say that's the way it goes. That's how baseball players have handled things for 100 years. No one wants anybody to get hurt, but if it happens, it happens. That was Hunter's attitude. That should be the Sox players attitude too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Jackson defends lack of retaliation Hunter sends message on collision; Sox struggle, fall 1 ½ games back. BY JEFF CARROLL Times Sports Writer This story ran on nwitimes.com on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:35 AM CDT AJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL Minnesota 6, White Sox 2 * Turning point: Brad Radke retired 16 straight White Sox at one point. * Up next: Minnesota (Johan Santana 8-6) at White Sox (Freddy Garcia 8-8), 7:05 p.m. today. * TV/Radio: WCIU (Ch. 26)/WMVP-AM (1000). CHICAGO -- The Minnesota Twins sent a clear hard-nosed baseball message to the White Sox on Monday night. And when it came time for the Sox to send one back, they didn't. Pitcher Brad Radke was masterful for the Twins, but all talk after the 6-2 Twins victory was about Torii Hunter's eighth-inning collision with White Sox catcher Jamie Burke. Hunter, tagging from third, appeared to step out of his way to smash into the defenseless Burke, who was taken to the hospital for precautionary tests afterward. In the ninth, after Hunter had verbally sparred with fans while on deck, reliever Mike Jackson simply retired him on a first-pitch groundout. "I don't play baseball like that," Jackson said when asked if he considered retaliating by throwing at Hunter. "Whatever he did, he has to live with. I don't play baseball like that, and I don't appreciate you coming and asking me a question like that. "I don't know what went on. I was in the bullpen. I can't see. He hit the man and everybody was saying he went out of his way to hit him." Jackson played for the Twins in 2002, and according to one Sox player who asked not to be identified, the reliever struck up a friendship with Hunter that season. "That's his buddy," the player said. "They played together a couple years. Jax isn't gonna do something like that to somebody like Torii. That's where he's coming from. "I'm sure when the time comes and something happens where he needs to hit somebody, he will. But he's not gonna hit Torii." Hunter said there was no ulterior motive to his collision with Burke. "I wasn't trying to hurt him. I was just playing hard," said Hunter, who added that fans near the on-deck circle were threatening him. A lack of response to Hunter's salvo wasn't the only listless sign by the Sox. The Twins pulled 1-1/2 games ahead of the Sox atop the American League Central, taking the important first of three key games at U.S. Cellular Field. Radke (7-6) retired 16 straight White Sox before leaving after seven innings. "That's a message," Guillen said of Hunter‘s play. "That's a message of why they show up in this town to play. I don't know if it was dirty or not, I couldn't tell. "If that happened on my side, I'd be the first one high-fiving my players. I expect my players to show up tomorrow and play the game the same way they were playing. "When I see those kind of plays like that, that's the kind of game I grew up playing." The White Sox (52-44) hope to prevent the Twins from making it three straight division titles. However, the Sox starter Mark Buehrle (10-4) couldn't summon an encore performance from his previous start. Buehrle was shaky, giving up 12 hits in 6 1/3 innings. In his previous start, Buehrle allowed only two hits and faced the minimum 27 batters in a shutout at Cleveland. Paul Konerko and Joe Borchard homered for the Sox on Monday. Jeff Carroll can be reached at [email protected] or (219) 933-3373. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Jackson had this to say after the game- In the ninth, after Hunter had verbally sparred with fans while on deck, reliever Mike Jackson simply retired him on a first-pitch groundout. "I don't play baseball like that," Jackson said when asked if he considered retaliating by throwing at Hunter. "Whatever he did, he has to live with. I don't play baseball like that, and I don't appreciate you coming and asking me a question like that. "I don't know what went on. I was in the bullpen. I can't see. He hit the man and everybody was saying he went out of his way to hit him." Jackson played for the Twins in 2002, and according to one Sox player who asked not to be identified, the reliever struck up a friendship with Hunter that season. "That's his buddy," the player said. "They played together a couple years. Jax isn't gonna do something like that to somebody like Torii. That's where he's coming from. "I'm sure when the time comes and something happens where he needs to hit somebody, he will. But he's not gonna hit Torii." Link to the article, from the Northwest Indiana Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Any chance we can send the 'Thriller' back to the twins? That must be some place to play ball as it seems most of the players that got traded/ left via free agency are crying in their beer over not being there (refering to Guardado, Pierzinski, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Thanks for digging up this article. So Jackson doesn't appreciate the line of questioning. Too f***ing bad. And Jackson apparantly "doesn't play the game that way" and won't stick up for his teammate because he might give his buddy a boo boo. I'm not in the clubhouse, so I don't know. But as a fan, this mentality pisses me off and I question if that's the type of veteran leader we should have. You can damn well bet the Twins would've understood if Hunter got drilled. They wouldn't have liked it but they would've understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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