Butter Parque Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I've had enough of his pig ass. Get him out of that f'ing rotation and put his ass in the bullpen. Are you telling me Neal Cotts can do any worse then him. I'm sure Neal can throw an 87 MPH fastball in Torri Hunter's kitchen. Hell even I could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Well, i've had enough stupid negativity for one night, i'm out PS Reddick sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I've had enough of his pig ass. Get him out of that f'ing rotation and put his ass in the bullpen. Are you telling me Neal Cotts can do any worse then him. I'm sure Neal can throw an 87 MPH fastball in Torri Hunter's kitchen. Hell even I could do that. I doubt you could throw 87 MPH. Why the f*** are you even hanging around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 He gave up 4 runs in 7 innings, 2 on home runs, one also being unearned. No, this wasn't the Cy Young calibur Loaiza from last year, but at least he kept them in it. On a separate note, don't you think it's time to change the 'ole screenname? I mean, that player hasn't been with this team for over a year, nor is the player in your avatar. JMHO, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 You want to dump a 21 game winner from last year? Come on, sure he's not going to win 21 games again, but he should get around 15 and that is still a good year. It's not his fault we lost this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 If he wants $8 mill plus, get him the hell out of here...we can't have an $8 mill risk. If he wants $5 mill or less...why not? He's going to win us 12-15 games, unless he's injured, and if he regains his velocity, he's back to being a 15-18 game winner and see him post a 3.50 or so ERA...maybe even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 In watching today's game I wondered if anybody would b**** about his start. Four runs is good enough, folks, especially at home. He did his job. He's hittable this year; last year he wasn't. He's still worth keeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 If we "send him to the bullpen" who the hell would replace him. If Schoeneweis did what Loaiza does, people wouldn't complain, but since it is not up to par with last year, people complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 If he wants $8 mill plus, get him the hell out of here...we can't have an $8 mill risk. Trust me he'll want more than that. After Garcia signed his deal, Loaiza said the "market had now been set for him". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I can't see anyway he would ask for that much, unless he gets real hot in the next two months. I can't believe he is pitching like such a b**** in his contract year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Only three earned today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Trust me he'll want more than that. After Garcia signed his deal, Loaiza said the "market had now been set for him". Oh I know he will. I was just saying if we can get him for $5 mill or less, we should resign him. I can't imagine why anyone would want to give him $8 mill a year though...$8 mill a year for a potential 4.50-5.00 ERA? :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Loiaza won't get $8Mill per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Loiaza won't get $8Mill per year. You never know. Who would have thought Chan Ho Park and Darren Dreifort were would get that much? People always overpay for pitching. Even if it's mediocre pitching someone will pay if they think he's the best person they can get. I envision Texas or Baltimore giving him some money, especially if he gets hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 You never know. Who would have thought Chan Ho Park and Darren Dreifort were would get that much? People always overpay for pitching. Even if it's mediocre pitching someone will pay if they think he's the best person they can get. I envision Texas or Baltimore giving him some money, especially if he gets hot. The market has changed since those contracts were given. Plus, those contracts are perfect examples of why Loiaza won't get that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 The market has changed since those contracts were given. Plus, those contracts are perfect examples of why Loiaza won't get that much. I realize that, but people will still spend a ton on pitching. Even with their ridiculous contracts someone still went out and got Hampton and Brown. Was Colon really a $12 million pitcher? Is Escobar really that good? He may have better stuff than Esteban, but he's also been a relief pitcher most of his career and doesn't have that 21 win season under his belt. I'm just saying I feel that someone is going to do something stupid once guys like Pavano, Clement, Radke, Perez, Martinez, and Lowe are signed. Everyone needs pitching, and there aren't enough studs to go around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I've had enough of his pig ass. Get him out of that f'ing rotation and put his ass in the bullpen. Are you telling me Neal Cotts can do any worse then him. I'm sure Neal can throw an 87 MPH fastball in Torri Hunter's kitchen. Hell even I could do that. Boy, if you were GM there would be NOBODY on this team. After one bad game you would have fired them. Then you would have NO free agents who would want to come to this team. And the rookie from the minors would be afraid to make one mistake. Yeah...you have a great baseball mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Butter Parque = Legend in His Own Mind I agree Ribbie. I have not seen a whole lot make sense other then he's pissed at the Sox right now, so f'in throw in the towel... Yea, I feel that way too, but I am not giving up with a 3 game deficit. Not yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 thats the whole problem you idiots. People who come here feel its fine to fail. There is no pressure on any of them. You know what if Loaiza is terrible then he goes to the bullpen. Now he knows for the rest of the year that he doesn't pitch well he's gonna be stuck in there. I want guys from the FA market that don't see failing as an option. Some of the guys on this team see it as a fallback plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Loaiza sucks becuase he is balless this year. He continues to go out after the Sox score some runs and he just gives the runs right back as the opponents score more, erasing what the Sox just did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 thats the whole problem you idiots. People who come here feel its fine to fail. There is no pressure on any of them. You know what if Loaiza is terrible then he goes to the bullpen. Now he knows for the rest of the year that he doesn't pitch well he's gonna be stuck in there. I want guys from the FA market that don't see failing as an option. Some of the guys on this team see it as a fallback plan. If we were the Yankees, and Loaiza sucked, he'd go to the bullpen and we'd bring in someone else. Guess what, we're not the f***ing Yankees. Loaiza will not be dropped out of the rotation, unless he gives up 5 or more runs in 5-10 straight starts, let alone giving up 4 runs, 3 of which were earned, in 7 innings against a hot Minnesota team. Idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I've had enough of his pig ass. Classless, as classless as this thread title. There are times I wish I could put some so called fans on waivers for the purpose of giving them their unconditional release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Goodness. Butterman, this is why there's a problem... you can be upset and not optimistic, and still be critical, without tearing people a new ass. It gets old. This team is struggling. Elo is struggling. Yep. We as fans arre stuggling to hang with the team. But you bet your ass we will, unlike you. Bu-bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 It'll really suck for you guys if this team falls out of it. I'm prepared to take the loss. This team has done to us fans many times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 thats the whole problem you idiots. People who come here feel its fine to fail. There is no pressure on any of them. You know what if Loaiza is terrible then he goes to the bullpen. Now he knows for the rest of the year that he doesn't pitch well he's gonna be stuck in there. I want guys from the FA market that don't see failing as an option. Some of the guys on this team see it as a fallback plan. Calling people idiots will not be tolerated here. Period. You had been warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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