DBAHO Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Hmmm interesting, no way he's leaving though. From Newsday, While the Mets appeared to be close on Benson late last night, only hours earlier, they were in serious discussions with the Devil Rays involving Victor Zambrano and also asked the White Sox about Esteban Loiaza. One baseball official said five teams still were chasing Zambrano, but the Mets had moved near the top of the list, and the likely reason was the inclusion of coveted lefthander Scott Kazmir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I would take Victor Zambrano over Loaiza anyday. Too bad the Sox couldn't find a way to nab him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 I would take Victor Zambrano over Loaiza anyday. Too bad the Sox couldn't find a way to nab him. Zambrano's had major control issues all year, if they could get Kazmir for him, that'd be a great deal for the D-Rays this year, especially since Zambrano's hitting arbitration this year I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Well Zambrano has had control probs but Loaiza hasn't exactly been the master of control lately either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Well Zambrano has had control probs but Loaiza hasn't exactly been the master of control lately either. loaiza's been the master of sucking lately, that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Loaiza has returned to his career norm. Last year was the aberration, not this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 If the Mets are offering Kasmir for Loiaza, do it in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 If the Mets are offering Kasmir for Loiaza, do it in a heartbeat. That would be the complete opposite of what KW's doing right now. Why trade Sweeney for Floyd and then Loaiza for Kazmir. We'd need another arm in the rotation for starters, Felix Diaz would probably be given the 1st chance though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 If the Mets are offering Kasmir for Loiaza, do it in a heartbeat. Seriously. Felix Diaz can't do any worse than ELo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 That would be the complete opposite of what KW's doing right now. Why trade Sweeney for Floyd and then Loaiza for Kazmir. We'd need another arm in the rotation for starters, Felix Diaz would probably be given the 1st chance though. I don't care if it is the complete opposite, Kasmir is going to be something special. Plus he will be a rookie and much cheaper. And I would be willing to bet he puts up much better numbers than Loz does next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 I don't care if it is the complete opposite, Kasmir is going to be something special. Plus he will be a rookie and much cheaper. And I would be willing to bet he puts up much better numbers than Loz does next year. Kazmir won't be with the White Sox in 2005, I believe he's in single A ball right now, had arm problems problems earlier in the season. But I'd love for this deal to happen as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Do you get the impression that Ozzie is fed up with Esteban? I do for some reason. When he talks about if these guys can't win that they won't be back next year, I feel like he's indicting Loaiza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 Do you get the impression that Ozzie is fed up with Esteban? I do for some reason. When he talks about if these guys can't win that they won't be back next year, I feel like he's indicting Loaiza. Ozzie just wants to see the Loaiza of last year, we all knew Loaiza wasn't going to repeat his numbers this season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Good lord, I'd trade Loaiza for pretty much anything at this point. This is only because I am coming from the standpoint that this season is toast(though I realize KW/JR can't act accordingly), and the team would be better off looking towards next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Hasn’t Victor Zambrano allowed over 100 walks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Hasn’t Victor Zambrano allowed over 100 walks? Victor's problem is that he has too much movement on his pitches. Nothing is straight. If he had just one pitch that he could count on, he would be one of the best in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) What the hell are you people sniffing thinking Duquette would trade his best prospect in Scott Kazmir for Esteban Loaiza? I want some of it. Kazmir is in AA, not high-A St. Lucie and could be in line for a 2005 callup. Edited July 30, 2004 by Cerbaho-WG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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