Bighurt52235 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1850582 I now have no doubt in my mind why he was selected as an All-Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArow33 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Just thinking about that... He shaved! Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Yup pretty much saw that one coming....Torre has had him in his back pocket since last year.... Wonder if they resign him if he pitches for them like he did for us in the past two months.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 "... Torre and the coaching staff -- they wanted me since four years ago, when I was with Texas." if this is true then why didnt they pick him up goin into the 2003 season :headshake "He's not going to have that knockout stuff that Jose had, but he'll show more control," Torre added. even torre knows Jose has better stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 It must have taken a 20 win season to interest Torre. I'm sure Loaiza will do fine there. Even though it sayd the Yanks were interest for a few years. I don't know, I guess they got him now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I must have taken a 20 win season to interest Torre. I'm sure Loaiza will do fine there. If by fine you mean an ERA of 4.50-5.00, yes, you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 It wouldn't surprise me if his ERA drops a run being a Yankee. Something tells me he'll be a resurgance for the remander of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 It wouldn't surprise me if his ERA drops a run being a Yankee. Something tells me he'll be a resurgance for the remander of the year. Very doubtful. He isn't just gonna magically start pitching better because he's a Yankee. His velocity is down. He's not challenging the hitters inside. He's giving up hr's like nobody's business. That won't change cause he's a Yankee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 all good points, velocity down, not pitching like he should, and his cutter just isnt the same however, the east dosent know him as well as the west, so if he can pitch agressivly, get some pointers about his cutter from rivara, and some how get by with a loss of 2 -3 mph in velocity, i think he could turn around a bit not gonna be the same elow from last year, but may get better then he has been with us this year... i think he'll be kinda inbetween Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 all good points, velocity down, not pitching like he should, and his cutter just isnt the same however, the east dosent know him as well as the west, so if he can pitch agressivly, get some pointers about his cutter from rivara, and some how get by with a loss of 2 -3 mph in velocity, i think he could turn around a bit not gonna be the same elow from last year, but may get better then he has been with us this year... i think he'll be kinda inbetween The Red Sox and O's will eat him alive. I don't see much success against the Rays or even Blue Jays for that matter. Not with all the flaws he has now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 "(Jason) Giambi was saying 'We want you, we want you,"' Loaiza said. "The way they were talking -- (manager Joe) Torre and the coaching staff -- they wanted me since four years ago, when I was with Texas." If this is true then why was he a minor league invitee to our camp last year when he was battling it out with Gil Heredia for the number 5 spot in the rotation? If the Yankees have been wanting him for that long then why didn't they sign him last year? That seems like a ridiculous statement to me from a guy that has a huge head/ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 If this is true then why was he a minor league invitee to our camp last year when he was battling it out with Gil Heredia for the number 5 spot in the rotation? If the Yankees have been wanting him for that long then why didn't they sign him last year? That seems like a ridiculous statement to me from a guy that has a huge head/ego. Or maybe that what they said to him and he simply repeated it. It's obvious, IMO, they (Torre) had a love fest with him by inviting him to the AS game. And Loaiza has far from a huge ego. JMO on that, too, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Or maybe that what they said to him and he simply repeated it. It's obvious, IMO, they (Torre) had a love fest with him by inviting him to the AS game. And Loaiza has far from a huge ego. JMO on that, too, of course. IIRC, loaiza was a players selection, not torre's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 IIRC, loaiza was a players selection, not torre's. Ahhh.. you are right. Forgot about that. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I'm positive Torre picked E-Lo.....Here's a quote from the article on Chisox.com. The reserves were picked, in part, through the ballots of players, managers and coaches from around the American League. Loaiza was one of the players named to the team by manage Joe Torre, in conjunction with Major League Baseball. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...s_cws&fext=.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I'm positive Torre picked E-Lo.....Here's a quote from the article on Chisox.com. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...s_cws&fext=.jsp Lord.. you guys are making my head spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 So basically Elo's All-Star appearence was an early meeting for his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 So basically Elo's All-Star appearence was an early meeting for his contract. Hmmm.. that's not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 We all talked about it then. I can say I'm not surprised by this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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