Texsox Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Loiza!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 To get them or to get rid of them??? lol I think it was great getting rid of both. Loaiza had much more success than Koch did here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Getting rid of Koch, by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Getting rid of Koch, by far. I agree, the Marlins thought they could turn Billy around, and now they had to trade for Mota to get to Benitez. That move helped us free up space to get Garcia and Everett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Talk about a no brainer. Botch was a liability on his best day with a big salary to boot. At least Loaiza contributed something to the team. A better poll would be to compare the Loaiza deal to the Garcia deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 If we were still lying to ourselves that Koch was gonna be an effective closer for us, we would be looking up at Detroit in the standings. Maybe KC too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 If Koch was still here with us I don’t think we’d be above .500. The guy was on pace of blowing a dozen of saves. Every time I saw him on the mound I knew we were in for something crazy. That Seattle game was when I lost 100% control and wanted Koch to get the hell out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Koch both times. We got Cotts and Valdez thanks to Koch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Billy Koch that was an addition by subtraction move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Anything that gets rid of Koch is a good trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Koch trade by far. We even got something useful for him. Meanwhile, the Twins gave up an All-Star first baseman for a single A pitcher with a history of arm problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I'm just glad we got rid of Foulke for Koch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 This isnt even close. Koch by faaaaar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I'm just glad we got rid of Foulke for Koch. I knew from day one that was gonna bad trade. Kw said that he traded foulke to get a strike out pitcher and the funny thing is foulke has a better k/9 throughtout is career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Koch has not done overly bad with the marlins a 3.60 era in 20 innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Koch has not done overly bad with the marlins a 3.60 era in 20 innings. That is deceptive though. I remember seeing a couple of highlights that Koch was walking people/getting singles hit off of, and Benitez had to bail him out. If Koch would have still continued some innings when he left in, his era would be like 4.80+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 That is deceptive though. I remember seeing a couple of highlights that Koch was walking people/getting singles hit off of, and Benitez had to bail him out. If Koch would have still continued some innings when he left in, his era would be like 4.80+ True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I dunno....the jury is still out on Wilson "I've never taken 4 pitches in an at-bat" Valdez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 i gotta go with, 1. garcia trade 2. lowisa trade 3. koch trade 4. carl dinosaur trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 It's too early to tell on either front. Both have the potential to be great. As of this moment we can say the Koch trade is better. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 how can you say that the koch trade is better then the garcia trade? koch was addition by subtraction but we havent seen anything other then that on the major leauge level, that SS prospect is doin good in AAA but that dosent mean anything... on the other hand garcia is what, 5 and 2... maybe 5 and 1? i have to go with that as the best trade right now... lowisa looks better then koch too oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 how can you say that the koch trade is better then the garcia trade? koch was addition by subtraction but we havent seen anything other then that on the major leauge level, that SS prospect is doin good in AAA but that dosent mean anything... on the other hand garcia is what, 5 and 2... maybe 5 and 1? i have to go with that as the best trade right now... lowisa looks better then koch too oh well I think he was saying that the koch trade is better then the Loaiza trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Koch by a mile. I'm glad we got rid of both though. We got some nice pieces in return. Plus, we freed up some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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