WilliamTell Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 This team is getting killed by Italy. I still think we'll win the gold medal, but it's amazing how quickly these foreign teams have caught on to the game. And they know the fundementals a lot better too. I think basketball will take over as the worlds most popular sport in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 USA is getting their asses handed to them. This Italy team can shoot the 3 ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I was just about to post something on this. Larry Brown is going to rip the hell out of them; I don't know if he'll be able to get through to this team though. The mindset of the NBA has changed a lot since that first Dream Team. 95-78 Final.... :puke The previous biggest loss with NBA players in this competition was an 87-80 loss to Argentina in 2002. Wow.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Wow, this is pretty pathetic. It's not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 If they can't beat Italy, they aren't going to win a medal. But when all of your top stars wimp out, what do you expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 If they can't beat Italy, they aren't going to win a medal. But when all of your top stars wimp out, what do you expect? Would you go play, everything considered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 If they can't beat Italy, they aren't going to win a medal. But when all of your top stars wimp out, what do you expect? This team should still be talented enough, but that's true. Some reason our country doesn't seem to have the same pride about these type of things. I guarantee every other team has their absolute best players on the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Ugly display by the "Dream Team." The game showed a lot of flaws. Marbury is the team's only true point guard, and he wasn't playing a lot. This caused a lot of turnovers. Also, Italy dropped back into a zone defense, negating our driving ability and post advantage. This wouldn't be a problem if the Team USA had any perimeter shooters, but they don't. The US team also showed little defensive ability, fouling numerous driving players and leaving open 3's, which were buried. The refs seemed to be biased against the US. There were a couple of plays where a foul was called, but the basket was not allowed. Also, numerous questionable traveling calls were made, and driving Italian players seemed to be given the benefit of the doubt. Plays that would be a no call in the NBA were called as defensive fouls. However, it wouldn't have mattered in the end because the US struggled to score. I think this shows that something on the team needs to change. We need to either make participation mandatory if accepted or include a bonus from the NBA. This team clearly would have benfited from the presence of players like Kidd(help ballhandling), Garnett(defense and jump shooting to break the zone), Kobe or McGrady(a little bit of everything), and Allen or Hamilton(major increase in outside shooting). Another option is keep a constant roster to improve continuity, but this is less likely, one because players likely won't commit long term, and it probably wouldn't help that much because European teams will play together longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Would you go play, everything considered? I would!!! It's called national pride in represnting your nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I would!!! It's called national pride in represnting your nation. It's called terrorism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Would you go play, everything considered? Nothing is going to happen.... except the USA being embarassed by these countries who have no business beating us... If our stars would play, it would be a whole different story... Imagine a lineup of this... C Shaq F Garnett F Duncan G McGrady G Bryant But thats not how it is... I wouldnt be surprised if USA didnt win a medal this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I just made my thoughts known on the thread I started. I'd appreciate it if someone merged the threads, I thought I made some good comments. This team doesn't have the true stud point guard like Kidd or any outside shooters like Allen or Hamilton. This team is going to struggle when teams play zone D on them, which seems likely. Nevermind, someone did. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 (edited) Would you go play, everything considered? I have gone to work everyday for the past over 5 years amongst the two biggest terror targets in the midwest in the Sears Tower and the Exchanges (CBOT, MERC, CBOE). I refuse to let something like that stop my life. And I think the symbolism of the people who could be representing our country not going to Athens is just sad. Edited August 3, 2004 by southsider2k4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I have gone to work everyday for the past over 5 years amongst the two biggest terror targets in the midwest in the Sears Tower and the Exchanges (CBOT, MERC, CBOE). I refuse to let something like that stop my life. And I think the symbolism of the people who could be representing our country not going to Athens is just sad. Exactly... Especially since USA has been getting embarassed lately... These superstars need to represent their country and bring back the days of dominating those other teams, thats what I wanna see again... When Italy puts a beatdown on a team thats ALL NBA players and most of them all stars.... HOEY, thats sad.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 It's called terrorism The terrorists have won if they see that they have altered daily decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Also, numerous questionable traveling calls were made, and driving Italian players seemed to be given the benefit of the doubt. It's not the NBA, they are supposed to call traveling. rolleyeyes.gif The Italians weren't bad at all. I want the Bulls to get Vicily or whatever his name was, #5 the guard. The US team was pathetic. It's time to get a bunch of white guys that know how to play the game. They may suck, but they'll play as a team and walk to gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I can't blame anyone who doesn't want to play because of security issues. It shouldn't stop your everyday life, but it shouldn't stop you from making wise decisions. Only place worse it could be is Baghdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 The terrorists have won if they see that they have altered daily decisions. That's not entirely true Heather, it's called living in the real world and knowing this crap is fully capable of happening. You realize how many daily decisions and procedures have changed already? In your book, 9/11 gave them the victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 It's not the NBA, they are supposed to call traveling. rolleyeyes.gif The Italians weren't bad at all. I want the Bulls to get Vicily or whatever his name was, #5 the guard. The US team was pathetic. It's time to get a bunch of white guys that know how to play the game. They may suck, but they'll play as a team and walk to gold. I understand that the US guys are used to getting the benefit of the doubt, but some of them were pretty iffy. Part of that could be blamed on the US guys for not knowing that they are going to call it more closely. I had a feeling this team was going to suck, but I didn't think they were going to lose to Italy. If they got the real stars instead of guys like Odom, they'd be find. Guys like Jefferson, James, Wade, and Carmelo have talent but don't really belong on this team. I'd also love to see guys like Garnett or either O'Neal instead of Stoudemire and Okafor. These guys are all very athletic but have very little experience and haven't really learned how to score yet. If this team had guys some guys that could shoot they'd be fine. Getting white guys that know how to play won't really work because we don't have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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