danman31 Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 The thing that really bothers me about poker either online or in person is that you have to play the same game regardless of the money that's at stake - 0 or $300-$600. Most people don't. People will limp in for $2 at the $4-$8 at the Mandalay b/c it's only $2. But if you do that 100 times, it's $200 your wasting hoping to catch top two pair or something on the flop. Agreed. We have a few people like that. Playing online for no money is a different game, but it is still fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 I should add that Poker is a game of acting rationally - either acting rationally yourself (throwing away hands you know are unlikely to win) or inducing your opponents to act rationally, even if that act is wrong. A strong bet on the flop with QQ when the board is rags induces someone holding A-K to act rationally, i.e., fold. At the same time, a check on the flop when you've just flopped a set of aces is an inducement to your opponent to act rationally, i.e., bet into you believing they've got the best hand. The hard part is that no matter how good the inducement might be, some people won't act rationally. They'll hold onto those beaten Jacks just because Jacks in the hole looks like a great hand. It isn't, it's counterfeited by overcards, but what are you going to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Wow, I just made one heck of a heads up comeback. I was playing a party poker NL hold em tourney, 10 players. I got to heads up down over 10 to 1 in chips, yet to win a hand. The chip leader had done his fair share of bluffing, heavy betting, and loose calling. He had done a good job of buying pots for a while, most players had grown weary of his heavy betting and having the hands occassionally to back it up. So I decided I would wait for my cards, get a couple hands and wait for him to make the mistake. Oddly enough I flopped a full house and got a straight on the turn on back to back hands, while slow playing deeper than normal waiting for him to buy the pot. Unfortunately he never made such a move and as soon as I made even the minimum bet on each hand he folded. The next 2 hands he raised huge amounts pre flop, and I was very aggrevated at his timing. I had a couple good starting hands so I raised pre flop, doubling the blind, he would reraise me back, and I would then go all in. As the favorite both times I won. Now the chip disadvantage was a little less than 3 to 1. At this point it wasn't about doubling up, it was about playing good hands well to bait him into calling. I landed a king on the flop one hand to give me top pair. He raises a large amount, I call. He continues to bet, but much less after each card. I called all the way through only to see he was betting with 2nd pair on the flop which I believe ended up as 3rd pair on the board. I had the chip lead after that hand, although barely. I continued to be patient and wait for him to make the mistake of betting way too much when I had a hand. After going back and forth I ended up with j 10 suited diamonds. I tripled the blind because I felt it was a solid enough hand to test how he would react to such a raise, he called. The flop comes all low cards with 2 diamonds so I decide to raise again, staying aggressive, betting just under what the pre flop raise was. In most cases this probably would have been a mistake because of the bad flop. The other guy probably got 2 possible reads: bluff, pocket pair. It was a semi-bluff on my part. He came back over the top and probably thought I was bluffing. He bet most of his and my chips, so the tournament was likely to be decided on this hand. Thankfully, I landed another diamond after calling his flop bet. At this point it was a matter of how much more I could get out of him. Considering the heavy betting earlier in the hand I thought, 'What the hell, let's shove 'em all-in.' The pot was around 10 times of what I had left so it made sense. He called with barely any chips left. He had q j offsuit (no diamonds)...interesting call, though he was pot committed after thinking I was bluffing at the pot on the flop. River didn't matter, I finished off what little he had left soon after that hand. That was awesome. And holy crap, I just posted a page and a half worth double spaced in Word. I wasn't going to let Soxtalk log me out and destroy my long post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatethecubs Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 does anyone wanna play some poker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Dan I had 2 simillar stories from last night/today. Last night in the same tourney format, we were down to 5 people. Chip leader was at about 8K the other 4 of us between 1250 and 2K in chips. On 4 consecutive hands I was dealt pocket pairs of some sort. I was the short stack @ the time and the Chip leader was trying to bully everyone... I doubled up on 2 of the 4 vs. the chip leader, and took down large pots with large river bets at half my stack or all-in. So I was now chip leader in about 4 hands... All of the hands but one were me and the chip leader heads up because I was betting large amounts pre-flop(the blinds had not been raised too high yet). Finally on the fifth hand I was dealt A/K suited... flop come A/k/x the former chip leader goes all-in on the flop. I call, he shows A/J. Turn and river are blanks. In five hands I went from 1250 to over 10K. I had eliminated 2 more over the next few hands. Then wittled away the final players 2500 slowly as the blinds increased. Today... First hand of the tourney I get AA. I hate playing the first few hands of the tourneys because so many of the poeple just go all in to try and get a big stack early. I was 3rd to act, so I bet 500 (1/3 of my chips). I thought that was a good bet that indicated that I 1) had a hand. 2) this isn't going to be one of those All-or-nothing hands. I get 3 callers. Flop comes Axx with 2 hearts. I bet 500 (1/2 remaining stack). get one caller. So early I was the chp leader. Later in the same game, about 6 left. I've been chip leader for a while, Nobody sees a flop for the blind, I always raise the blind no matter what pot I'm in. I've got A/Ko, so I make a sizable bet, flop comes AKx. I was last to act, so when I saw the 2nd Stack go all-in, as he had done in other pots that I wasn't in. I was pretty sure he was trying to buy the pot.. I call. He show pocket K's River and turn don't help me. and I'm down to 120 bucks. with 6 remaining. Next hand I triple up with pocket 10's. so I'm at 360. This is where you realize what crappy players I'm playing with. There's 6 people left, and I'm still able to limp into hands from the big and small blinds. I fold to almost anybet. It would take maybe 2 rounds of blinds with bets to drive me out. well I stick around chosing my spots. Limping into a few hands. I double up 3 more times in total. I fight my way back to having 3000 at one point and eventually finish 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 (edited) Today... First hand of the tourney I get AA. I hate playing the first few hands of the tourneys because so many of the poeple just go all in to try and get a big stack early. Agreed. I had the same thing happen to me today. Pocket aces to start. I felt bad for going all in on the flop of the first hand, but I had rockets...I ended up knocking out 3 idiots on that hand and finished off the rest to win the tourney. Last night I was playing with my friends in a cash game. I brought one of my best friends for the first time. I didn't even know he played cards until Thursday so I had no idea how good he was. He was being very aggressive at a very passive table. 2 of the 8 players were aggressive, we were missing a couple of our more aggressive players due to Yom Kippur. My friend raises to a dollar, but he had been so aggressive that I decided to call with k 9 o. I was the only caller. Flop comes 9 8 x. So I have top pair and like my chances. My friend raises another dollar. I raise all in with $2.60. He calls the extra $1.60 and flips over pocket 7s. Obviously, I read my opponent correctly, made the correct call, and was the overwhelming favorite. Turn comes a 10, and my only thought process at the moment was good that's a blank. I see the dealer flip the river and first glance I realized it was a picture card giving me the win. Then the Jack hits the table. I pause...and realize he caught a running straight. O-u-c-h. That was the difference between me finishing with no money (I wasn't going to buy back in after that hand) and having around $8 on the night ($5 buy in). After never losing money in cash games, I've hit a horrid streak where I've lost in 3 of the last 4. Edited September 26, 2004 by danman31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Man what an awesome weekend. 3 days in a row my brother (12) and I each had some friends over and played for about 3-4 hours a day. Over the weekend I came out about $5 up. Playing with $0.10 chips. Probably gonna start being a regular Friday thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVVY18 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I played at a friends house on Saturday night with a $10 buy in. I flushed early to get a comfortable amount of chips, which allowed me to risk some chips with absolutely nothing. This set me up great for later in the game where I picked up a couple of $10 pots when they again thought I had nothing, when in fact I had the nuts. Then I was able to start buying pots with nothing at all. They just got scared because they knew if they called a small bet, I was going to put them all-in. Then if they did go All-in before me, I would just fold it. Alot of the game is mental. Along with discipline and occasionally getting some cards. By the end of the night, I left with $53 bucks. Not too shabby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsoxs1 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Bad poker beat here. I was playing in a 7 card stud game I had about 7000 in chips leader had about 15000 at the time and low stack was 1500 or so. I got dealt pocket Aces and a Kd on the board. I bet 500 and the big stack makes it 2500 to go with his Jd showing. The next card is Ad for me and he gets a 8D. I go all in hoping to pull the guy off of his diamond draw which I pegged him for, plus I was hoping with 2 over card diamonds showing he would fold. He called. He had an opened straight flush draw with the J-10-9-8 of diamonds. I had A-A-K-A. It was an unbilevable hand to look at. I get a blank on 5th street he gets a 2d for his flush. Then I get an A on 6th street for a four of a kind. He gets a blank. He ends up pulling a 7D for his straight flush. I was in such aw that I couldn't move. I just sat there for the next 10 mins staring into space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 I played a PartyPoker multi-table tourney tonight, and I lost...so did 1998 other people. But I went out so stupid that it was a joke. At the turning point in my night, I was the huge chip leader at my table, and was probably top 20-30 in chips...blinds were still like 50-100 and I had around 8,000 in chips. Pre-flop, I look at 10-9, and limp in. Flop comes 10-9-x...I flop top 2 pair. I bet 500, trying to sort of semi-slow play the hand. The guy two seats over raises to all-in...about 3155 total. Of course I call. He has A-J...so he went in with 2 over cards. Turn comes A. River comes A. I honest to God couldn't believe that...I went from looking at a stack of probably over 11,000 to looking at a stack that was about 4,500...yeah, ouch babe. About 5 hands later, I look at J-5...and I limp in. Flop comes 5-x-5...so I flop a set of 5's. Someone bets, someone raises all-in...I call, figuring my kicker is good enough. We all flip our cards over, and the guy has A-5...and my night was pretty much done. I had 40 in chips after that...got deuces in the hole, quadrupled up after making a set on the turn, went all in the next hand with K-7, and was knocked out. So yeah, anyways...I thought that pretty much sucked, and I thought I'd like to say how crappy it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 At the turning point in my night, I was the huge chip leader at my table, and was probably top 20-30 in chips...blinds were still like 50-100 and I had around 8,000 in chips. Pre-flop, I look at 10-9, and limp in. Flop comes 10-9-x...I flop top 2 pair. I bet 500, trying to sort of semi-slow play the hand. The guy two seats over raises to all-in...about 3155 total. Of course I call. He has A-J...so he went in with 2 over cards. Turn comes A. River comes A. I honest to God couldn't believe that...I went from looking at a stack of probably over 11,000 to looking at a stack that was about 4,500...yeah, ouch babe. About 5 hands later, I look at J-5...and I limp in. Flop comes 5-x-5...so I flop a set of 5's. Someone bets, someone raises all-in...I call, figuring my kicker is good enough. We all flip our cards over, and the guy has A-5...and my night was pretty much done. The A-J call of the 9-10 is not really bad. I would think that the guy thinks you have top pair or something (maybe holding J-10) and it's a coin flip situation where a big bet might take you off. If he raised pre-flop (like he should have), he might think he could make you put him on QQ or JJ and throw away your 10's. He was probably pretty bummed to get a call and then have the call for two pair. As to the J-5 limp in.....unless you were on the big blind, I think you learned a lesson about limping in with something like that. Better off throwing it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 I just got a 500 piece on Ebay for $60 (including shipping.) $60 including shipping? Wow...that's a hell of a deal. Nice steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 $60 including shipping? Wow...that's a hell of a deal. Nice steal. It costs around $38 just to ship, and I won the set for $22.50. Check out ebay, there's usually an auction ending every ten minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaSoxFan Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Joke of the Day - October 11, 2004 I don't get no respect. I joined Gambler's Anonymous. They gave me two to one I don't make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I think this upcoming weekend we need to get some poker going again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 I've played it, but their site is down often and they didn't have enough no limit tables back in the day. The thing that I keep telling people about pokerroom is that we can have custom/private tables so we can play with only soxtalk people. Personally, I think partypoker is way better than pacific poker. I like party poker.. A LOT. I played today since I was home. Started with $50 left with $900. Jim will be so happy when he sees that. Cha ching!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 30, 2004 Author Share Posted October 30, 2004 I like party poker.. A LOT. I played today since I was home. Started with $50 left with $900. Jim will be so happy when he sees that. Cha ching!! DAMN That's not a bad day at the office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 After my exams finish in a week and a half, I've got 2 things to do. GTA San Andreas and Poker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 DAMN That's not a bad day at the office. No kidding. I played again last night. Started with $200. Down to my last $40, went all in with a possible flush (dealt 3 hearts). A pair of 5's were on the board and I caught the flush on the river and won a $430 pot. Very sweet. I probably should quit while I'm ahead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 After lunch we play $1 hands everyday. I won $14 yesterday and $25 for the week. Not bad for a weeks worth of playing at school. Hopefully I do well tomorrow night at our all nighter poker party. 16 straight hours of poker starting Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 6, 2004 Author Share Posted November 6, 2004 After lunch we play $1 hands everyday. I won $14 yesterday and $25 for the week. Not bad for a weeks worth of playing at school. Hopefully I do well tomorrow night at our all nighter poker party. 16 straight hours of poker starting Saturday night. God that's so fun playing all night...I'm not sure there's anything better then that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I played tonight. I was pissed because I forgot to get 5s and 1s with me. All I had was 20s and 2 singles so I had to buy in for $2 considering a 20 would be a b**** to cash out in a cash game. Anyway I was up most of the night then I lost a hand where I had 2 draws (flush, open ended) and a pair. Anyway I was barely down and I had pocket queens so I go all in. I get a caller, who has pocket 2s. Flop: blanks. Turn: queen, I have trips I can't lose...BUT (you knew there was a but didn't you? ) he has a flush draw. And if you didn't see it coming he catches a flush on the river. A 4 card flush. Awful, awful times. But hey I only lost $2 on the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 :banghead :headshake Wow this afternoon sucked major f***ing monkey ass. I played cash games at my friends house with about 10 other people and played amazing all day. I bought in with $10 and got that up to $55. About a half hour before I had to leave, I got dealt pocket 9's. Flop comes and it is 9-7-5. I bet $5 and another kid raises me to all in. Having flopped top trips, I had to call. After much deliberation and pressure from my friends I called and of course he had 8-6. Straight. The kid who beat me took about $20 from me each of the last three weeks when I got up huge and then lost it all. This sucks so bad, I want to f***ing kick the kids ass. He's a f***ing nerd that studies poker like it's his job, buying books and researching. And to top it off I was urging my friend who hosted the game to not invite him and he did not until we did not have enough chips and had to invite him because he had chips. :puke :fyou :fyou :fyou :puke :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I want to f***ing kick the kids ass. He's a f***ing nerd that studies poker like it's his job, buying books and researching. What's wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 I played on Thursday, and I played alright...didn't make any money, but whatever, it's for the entertainment, right? Anyways, last hand of the day, I look down and see J-J...the guy in first position goes all in, and I figure he's probably just trying to push everyone out and is just messing around because he mentioned that he had to leave very shortly. The guy next to me was deliberating for a long time...I figured he had something like A-10 or A-Q, and was thinking that maybe the guy in front of him had A-J, A-Q, or A-K, or maybe even a pair. He sat thinking about this move for like 2 minutes. I let him know I was going to call, and he still called. The guy in first position flipped up his cards...Q-Q. The guy who was deliberating forever flipped over his cards...K-K. KK, QQ, and JJ on the last hand? That was insane. Also...not sure if anyone has Phil Hellmuth's book of Lucky Draws and Bad Beats...but there is a story in there about some guys playing Omaha, and a guy had the absolute stonecold nuts on the turn, and was drawing dead on the river...any card that came would have given someone a straight, flush, or quads. If I can remember/find the story exactly, or if someone has the book, I'll/someone please post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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