BamaDoc Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 1. Kill the four man rotation. No sense hurting any arms or labrums. I would actually decrease workloads as well for the same reason and to evaluate younger players. I would try a combination of players letting them know in advance that they are getting three starts. Start with Pacheco possibly stewart(not sure after tonight.) Diaz relieves last month getting regular work. 2. Jackson to anyone for anything or allow him to mentor and be an emergency pitcher. 3. Kelly Wunsch.... were is he? He appears healthy so put personal vendettas aside. We have needed another lefty and could at least enhance his trade value. 4. Treat Valentin with respect. Let him know we will try to place him with a contender for his benefit. Let him know younger players are being evaluated and he may have a spot next year and definately has a coaching gig when he is done playing. This avoids offering him arbitration and a minimum offer of 4 million. Play Valdez at short and evaluate. 5. Borchard meet with him and tear his stat sheet up and let him start over. Play him everyday unless tired. Maybe he will relax and show something. 6. Crede we need him to pan out. One of few plus defenders on the team and he is still cheap and has value. 7. Harris everyday at second for experience. Possibly some time by Nelson to evaluate utility possibilities. 8. Uribe meet with him and explain he will be a big part of the team next year and any loss of at bats now is not an indication of lacking confidence in him. Next year he could start at 3,2,ss. or be supper sub. 9. Konerko now or offseason. He or Lee look to be odd man out. Frank has player option and Everett another year on contract. Four guys for 2-3 spots. If Konerko traded I would try Lee at first to see if that opens left for Everett. I would not expect all of these trials to work but they would help planning for 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 1. Kill the four man rotation. No sense hurting any arms or labrums. I would actually decrease workloads as well for the same reason and to evaluate younger players. I would try a combination of players letting them know in advance that they are getting three starts. Start with Pacheco possibly stewart(not sure after tonight.) Diaz relieves last month getting regular work. 3. Kelly Wunsch.... were is he? He appears healthy so put personal vendettas aside. We have needed another lefty and could at least enhance his trade value. The four man rotation is no longer and wunsch is basically done with this orginization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Just say no to Everett in the field! The last thing this organization needs is for the worst fielding outfielder in baseball to be playing the field on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 3. Kelly Wunsch.... were is he? He appears healthy so put personal vendettas aside. We have needed another lefty and could at least enhance his trade value. That is a great point. I am not sure what the deal is with him, but he was a good bullpen arm, a big need that we have. I'd be interestied in heraering what the situation actually was with him, because if it was some minor crap, GM Ken would have some explainin to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 That is a great point. I am not sure what the deal is with him, but he was a good bullpen arm, a big need that we have. I'd be interestied in heraering what the situation actually was with him, because if it was some minor crap, GM Ken would have some explainin to do. He was the team's union player rep. It seems to happen to all of 'em on the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 3. Kelly Wunsch.... were is he? He appears healthy so put personal vendettas aside. We have needed another lefty and could at least enhance his trade value. Amen! KW wants to hold a grudge rather then win. Anyone who has Mike Jackson on their roster can NOT be serious about winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I don't understand why people think there's an issue with Kenny and Kelly. There isn't. That's from the both of their mouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I don't understand why people think there's an issue with Kenny and Kelly. There isn't. That's from the both of their mouths. I guess I should stop assuming because we know what spell ass-u-me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I don't understand why people think there's an issue with Kenny and Kelly. There isn't. That's from the both of their mouths. Kenny made a comment back in spring training along the lines of "someone that thinks they are on this team better take a look in the mirror or they won't be" (That is NOT a direct quote) .... the general consensus was that he was talking about Kelly. That was speculated about in the media. I think that will explain why people have this idea of discord between Kelly and Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Kenny made a comment back in spring training along the lines of "someone that thinks they are on this team better take a look in the mirror or they won't be" (That is NOT a direct quote) .... the general consensus was that he was talking about Kelly. That was speculated about in the media. I think that will explain why people have this idea of discord between Kelly and Kenny. That comment was about Scott, not Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 That comment was about Scott, not Kelly. Hmmmm. I remember it differently. I'm not disagreeing with you, just stating that I thought it was Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Hmmmm. I remember it differently. I'm not disagreeing with you, just stating that I thought it was Kelly. No, it was definitely about Scott. Scott had family in town for ST. He requested 26 tickets from the ticket office.. when they told him there was a limit.. he responded with.. "do you know who I am"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 No, it was definitely about Scott. Scott had family in town for ST. He requested 26 tickets from the ticket office.. when they told him there was a limit.. he responded with.. "do you know who I am"..... LMAO ... OK Steff. I guess you know what you are talking about. Salute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 No, it was definitely about Scott. Scott had family in town for ST. He requested 26 tickets from the ticket office.. when they told him there was a limit.. he responded with.. "do you know who I am"..... Ok, now I need a new reason why Kelly is getting the run around. He will be called up in Sept, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Ok, now I need a new reason why Kelly is getting the run around. He will be called up in Sept, yes? No idea. He is the player union rep. Usually when they reach the end of the line they don't return to the big club. Really.. it's not a personal matter with Kenny. When Kelly's daughter was born a very nice gift was sent his way. I can't imagine if Kenny had an issue with him he would have bothered. Many others didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Ok, now I need a new reason why Kelly is getting the run around. He will be called up in Sept, yes? He won't be called up in September. He was removed from the 40 man roster and will be in another organization next year. He isn't healthy enough to pitch out of the pen. He can go once every three days if your lucky and thats just not an option, especially for a lefty specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 He won't be called up in September. He was removed from the 40 man roster and will be in another organization next year. He isn't healthy enough to pitch out of the pen. He can go once every three days if your lucky and thats just not an option, especially for a lefty specialist. That sucks. Kelly was a quality pitcher and teammate. Sucks to see injuries ACTUALLY take him out of action. I though the "injuries" were a cover for some behind the scenes politics, but I guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 That sucks. Kelly was a quality pitcher and teammate. Sucks to see injuries ACTUALLY take him out of action. I though the "injuries" were a cover for some behind the scenes politics, but I guess not. I can kind of go along with what Steff said. I think I mentioned it back in spring training, but I had a press pass for one of the Sox days and you could see Kenny joking around with Kelly. That told me they ddin't dislike each other. Both had a good laugh. I think I posted about it back then too cause it was when everyone was saying Kenny was running Kelly out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Steff, how can Kelly still be the player union rep when he is not on the 40-man roster? Wouldn't that mean he is no longer in the union? me confused..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Steff, how can Kelly still be the player union rep when he is not on the 40-man roster? Wouldn't that mean he is no longer in the union? me confused..... Cause I'm a moron and should have said "was the player rep".. rolleyeyes.gif By the way Rex.. did you happen to catch the real Rex on Rome the other day..? He was talking about his son.. it was so sad.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I wouldn't do anything because this country is a democracy. Kings are worthless these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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