israel4ever Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Let's try and get this back to a friendly debate. douchbag and shut the f*** up and bigoted, racists comments are something we are trying to eliminate. I will keep the thread open and would prefer if the posters involved did some self editing. Somewhere there is a distinction of attacking the words and not the poster. Find it please. You are absolutely right. I only used the word "douchebag" after being attacked...I will try to control myself. I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Ok I4E i dont think it is a good idea trying to get someone in trouble by saying that they are making personal attacks to you by calling them a douchbag in the same post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 what have i said about that stuff, you don't have to win every discussion or to be looked at in a positive light. you should have left it at that. peace. I'm not trying to win ANY arguments...just trying to make a point (like EVERYONE else who posts here!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 I'm not trying to win ANY arguments...just trying to make a point (like EVERYONE else who posts here!). kool, let that stand as it. i am with you on this. man, i have had it out with some of the old timers here and its been really nasty. trust me . but we are still civil now. with time this will pass on by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Ok I4E i dont think it is a good idea trying to get someone in trouble by saying that they are making personal attacks to you by calling them a douchbag in the same post You are right...and I apologized. I just want EVERYONE on this site to be treated EQUALLY, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Shut the f*** up already; I'm fairly sure everyone here is sick of your bigoted, racist talk all the time. Seriously, way out of line. I don't want to see this stuff anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 i4e and for that fact, cerb have a temper............... wow i thought i was bad. just got to work with it and try to do thing in a positive light. peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Terrorism goes on in all areas of the world and to say that it's 99% of it is committed by radical muslims is being ignorant of the FACTS. I agree it's overbearing to label 99% of the worlds terrorist acts on Islamic Extremists, but can we assume they make up a large majority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Mohandas Gandhi award,................. if there is i want it!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 C'mon...nobody appreciated my attempt to lighten the mood with the Dr. Strangelove reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 C'mon...nobody appreciated my attempt to lighten the mood with the Dr. Strangelove reference? i thought it was extremely funny but i wasn't sure what you were ref it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 C'mon...nobody appreciated my attempt to lighten the mood with the Dr. Strangelove reference? Apu the peacemaker? Who would have thunk it. Don't you have a school to bomb Yassir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Apu the peacemaker? Who would have thunk it. damn, you are right....................... wow ok who are you and have you done with the real apu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Hose Jon Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Then it's obvious that "Radical Islam" committs a grossly disproportionate amount of the world's terrorism. See 9/11, Israel, Sudan, Chechnia, Philippines, etc., Prove me wrong, if you think you can! Fair enough: Aristide and liberation theolgans in Brazil Oklahoma City Tokyo subway attack Uni bomber Anthrax attack of 2001 Northern Ireland This is just of the top of my head, i'm sure there is alot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 let alone all the "ira" attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Fair enough: Aristide and liberation theolgans in Brazil Oklahoma City Tokyo subway attack Uni bomber Anthrax attack of 2001 Northern Ireland This is just of the top of my head, i'm sure there is alot more The terrorist attacks referenced are seperate events from different organizations. Al-Qeada, both in death inflicted and number of members, far exceeds any group on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 PHJ, I'd also add the assassinations by the neo-Nazi group, the Order to your list. Not to mention Carlos the Jackal or the terror wrought by the Medellin cartel, South American right wing paramilitary death squads, left wing rebel groups like AZN/FARC, the military of the Partido Revoluccionario Institutional and the Zapatistas in Mexico. That's just a few examples of violence that is non-Muslim that I could think of off the top of my head. (Not calling it all terrorism because I believe that the Zapatistas and the FARC have a somewhat legitimate fight on their hands...but the means that they do it are not always in agreeance with me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Hose Jon Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 The terrorist attacks referenced are seperate events from different organizations. Al-Qeada, both in death inflicted and number of members, far exceeds any group on that list. I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion. Who on here knew what alqueda was before sept 11th? i did but that is because i have always had an interest in terrorism. (no i am not a terrorist ) Alqueda isn't the only terrorist organization in the middle east.(although our government wants you to believe otherwise). I think if we are going to talk about the largest terrorist group in the middle east, it is hard to say anything other than Hamas. To be clear. I am not saying that muslims don't commit terrorism. They make up a fifth of the worlds population. What i am saying is that terrorism is not limited to muslims, it is a global problem that needs to be stopped. I don't think that the correct solution is to spend billions on security, and tear up the united states constitution. I think that we have to address why terrorists do the things they do. Why are they angry at us? What if we started to stop deviding people, and insted brought everyone together. I'm just a political science major though, What the hell do i know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Fair enough: Aristide and liberation theolgans in Brazil Oklahoma City Tokyo subway attack Uni bomber Anthrax attack of 2001 Northern Ireland This is just of the top of my head, i'm sure there is alot more That's less than 10...there has been at least 10 times that amount, committed by "Palestinians" within the last 18 months. That's just 1 group of Radical Islamists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion. I4E's requested anyone to provide evidence of another organization, besides Muslim Extremists, who commit a larger preportion of the worlds terrorism. You posted several examples, and I merely stated Al-Qeada overshadows any of those events. I never intended to draw a definite conclusion on Al-Qeada or its relationship to world terrorism. I don't have statistics available to prove my case other then what I view on TV. And I'm sure someone will state, "you can't believe everything you see on television!" I don't think that the correct solution is to spend billions on security, and tear up the united states constitution. I think that we have to address why terrorists do the things they do. Why are they angry at us? I agree. Did Al-Qeada's (among other Muslim groups) hatred towards the United States begin following our occupation of Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War? Or as George Bush indicated, "they hate our freedoms and despise our free society?" Whatever you believe is the reason we're disliked, no one can refute the impact this Iraq War II will have on the next generation of terrorism. US may disrupt global terrorism for the next 5 years, but what happens after that? Will this "War of Terrorism" ever end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 t roosevelt said it best at the beginning of the century. we, usa, will never be like and will have a few allies. what the world is going to do is respect us or maybe fear us, they may be jealous of us, but they will hate us. esp when they come to us for help and we help them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 The problem with trying to add up the terrorists is first trying to define them and from whose eyes? For example to a person living in a public housing unit who has a street game trying to recruit their child or who has to pay protection money to the local thug, that's a terrorist. If we are just talking acout groups that can inflict widespread damage with lots of death and destruction, an argument could be made that all the world's armies are terrorists. Remember if the US decides you should be dead, your dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 The entire continent of Africa. But those goddamn Muslims were behind it the massacres inside of the Sudan, Congo, Ivory Coast, etc. etc. etc, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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