Mr. Showtime Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 Prosecutors will file a motion this afternoon to dismiss the sexual assault charge against Kobe Bryant, according to sources familiar with the case. ABCNews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 And the charges would be dropped WITH prejudice, meaning they can never be brought again. Interesting, to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 For some reason, I see money exchanging hands somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Hose Jon Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 Money and fame buy freedom. But it was probably the fact that there were so many mistakes made during the case by the judge and court, that they decided they had no chance of winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted September 1, 2004 Author Share Posted September 1, 2004 Money and fame buy freedom. But it was probably the fact that there were so many mistakes made during the case by the judge and court, that they decided they had no chance of winning According to what I saw on SportsCenter, the victim has claimed she will no longer cooperate with the prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaSoxFan Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 She might have consented to have sex. I have seen this happen before. Just when the trial starts drop the claim. And use the "I lost faith in the Judicial sytem". I start my US Government class tomorrow. I will ask the teacher about what the hell happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 What happens next is they go to Civil trial, unless they are going to cancel that one too. But from the looks of it the Civil potential win is all she ever wanted in my opinion. $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 The difference is simple. In a criminal trial the standard for conviction is, beyond a reasonable doubt. That means the defense would ask the jury if they had any doubt what so ever, that they acquit. Now in a civil trial the standard is a preponderance of the evidence, and of course you have the sympathy of the jury, and the knowledge that Kobe has millions, so even if they error, would an error of say $100k be that devastating? If the case is dropped because she refuses to testify, there may be severe consequences on the civil trial, because no jury is being sequestered at this moment for said case, so almost every juror will know that it was not that she lost the case, like the Goldman Simpson case, it was that she did not even want to testify anymore. And I really never thought that the prosecution had a chance, but I am suprised that they didnt go for a conviction, knowing that by losing the criminal case she would look even more sympathetic in the civil case. Because now they could say she was a "victim" whos only recourse now is monetary. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 If the condom dont fit, you must acquit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Okay, so can we stop worrying about Kobe going behind bars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Okay, so can we stop worrying about Kobe going behind bars? Fraid so, whether his wife will trust him again is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 whether his wife will trust him again is another story. What a stupid idiot. Why the hell who you "have an affair with" a woman and especially if shes even UGLIER (and had no "special qualities if you know what I mean) than your hott wife?! :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Kobe was innocent all along. This was a BS case and Kobe definately f***ed up in this whole thing. He obviously wasn't the character individual everyone made him out to be, but this girl was a freaking whore who was trying to get fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 What the f*** is Kobe talking about "I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."??? Either she did or she didn't, it's pretty easy to tell whether it's consensual or not. All along he maintained he didn't do anything wrong, and now he is apologizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 What the f*** is Kobe talking about "I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."??? Either she did or she didn't, it's pretty easy to tell whether it's consensual or not. All along he maintained he didn't do anything wrong, and now he is apologizing. The apology was a condition of the charges being dropped, and "can't be used against him" in the civil case. BUT....most, if not all, potential jurors in the civil case probably heard his "apology" and as the saying goes, you can't unring a bell. I doubt the civil case ever goes to trial - there's got to be a framework in place for a settlement. I think she just wants to "get on with her life" with a few bucks in her pocket at this point, at least that's how it looks from the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Kobe was innocent all along. This was a BS case and Kobe definately f***ed up in this whole thing. He obviously wasn't the character individual everyone made him out to be, but this girl was a freaking whore who was trying to get fame. Nice Jason... real nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 The apology was a condition of the charges being dropped, and "can't be used against him" in the civil case. BUT....most, if not all, potential jurors in the civil case probably heard his "apology" and as the saying goes, you can't unring a bell. I doubt the civil case ever goes to trial - there's got to be a framework in place for a settlement. I think she just wants to "get on with her life" with a few bucks in her pocket at this point, at least that's how it looks from the outside. IMO.. IF he was innocent.. no deal. No apology, no nothing. Move the case forward.. go to trial.. and let the cards fall. If she refused, and he got off, it's her own fault. The apology makes him look more guilty to me.. and when the settlement is announced that'll seal the deal even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 The apology was a condition of the charges being dropped, and "can't be used against him" in the civil case. BUT....most, if not all, potential jurors in the civil case probably heard his "apology" and as the saying goes, you can't unring a bell. I doubt the civil case ever goes to trial - there's got to be a framework in place for a settlement. I think she just wants to "get on with her life" with a few bucks in her pocket at this point, at least that's how it looks from the outside. This article pretty much sums it all up, The critical element in the dismissal of the Kobe Bryant rape case was his apology to the accuser - an apology that relieved him of criminal liability and gave her no ammunition for a civil case. Not long after questioning showed that many prospective jurors believed Bryant was innocent, negotiations to end the case began. They revolved around what Bryant's apology to the accuser would say and what its implications would be for the criminal and civil cases against Bryant. Meanwhile, the prosecution was facing another difficulty: a scathing motion in which defense attorney Pamela Mackey accused the prosecution of withholding key testimony. In that testimony, Dr. Michael Baden, former chief medical examiner for New York City, said it was impossible for him to tell whether Bryant's 20-year-old accuser had been raped. Baden had given that testimony to prosecutors months ago. But the prosecution, which had originally decided to call Baden to testify and then dropped the idea, didn't disclose Baden's findings to the defense. Not until Aug. 27 did Mackey find out about Baden's opinions. She filed a motion Tuesday to have the case dismissed, which was publicly released early Wednesday. By then, Eagle County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert knew Bryant's accuser did not want to continue with the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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