beck72 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 That's what I'm saying. We've been talking for a month about how this team needs to built around pitching, defense, situational hitters, etc and to get away from the power right handed hitters. So ... everyone thinks we should trade a good young pitcher with a very high upside for Rh hitting, high K, defensive liablity slugger. Makes sense to me. What has to be considered is that the sox will still need some power guys. Soriano gives a team both speed at the top of the order [something Ozzie has wanted] and the ability to hit HR's. His defense is the biggest question mark. Santana was able to work with Jose and improve his d the last 2 years. Who knows if Soriano is able to correct his errors. If he's too much of a butcher, the the sox would be better off w/o him. Yet I still think Soriano is more valuable than Garland. Just maybe for a different team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I would swing that trade in a friggin heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I honestly think JG is done in a White Sox uniform. We have our top three already in place, and IMHO we will sign another quality pitcher. Diaz will be involved in next season, somehow -- and not as a reliever. Diaz will either be traded, in Charlotte, or our fifth starter IMHO. Garland is expendable. Soriano is a special player, it is not just any player we are talking about here. He would be nice at the top of our order with Aaron. I would love to have Soriano at 2B, with Uribe at SS. That would be nice. We would need to deal one of Frank, CLee, or Konerko in order for this to be too realistic, as we could possibly only have Ben Davis in the lineup from the left-side of the plate. This is one deal I would do for sure, especially if they are not asking for too much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I honestly think JG is done in a White Sox uniform. We have our top three already in place, and IMHO we will sign another quality pitcher. Diaz will be involved in next season, somehow -- and not as a reliever. Diaz will either be traded, in Charlotte, or our fifth starter IMHO. Garland is expendable. Soriano is a special player, it is not just any player we are talking about here. He would be nice at the top of our order with Aaron. I would love to have Soriano at 2B, with Uribe at SS. That would be nice. We would need to deal one of Frank, CLee, or Konerko in order for this to be too realistic, as we could possibly only have Ben Davis in the lineup from the left-side of the plate. This is one deal I would do for sure, especially if they are not asking for too much more. The problem I have with that scenario is what happens if Diaz doesn't perform as the 5th starter next year? Who else do we turn to, Josh Stewart? Arnie Munoz again? I would rather keep Garland, bump him down to the 5th spot in the rotation, and sign Odalis Perez or Matt Clement to be a #2 or #3 starter in our rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Yall who are clammoring for Soriano must be really bumming that Valentin won't be back next year. Makes sense to me to trade valuable pitching for a bad fielding, poor OBP infielder. Since when is Garland considered "valuable pitching"? If valuable is synonamous (sp?) with "inconsistent", then I guess Garland could be considered valuable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I'd put soriano in the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Since when is Garland considered "valuable pitching"? If valuable is synonamous (sp?) with "inconsistent", then I guess Garland could be considered valuable.. Despite the bad year Garland has had, he's still recorded double digits for wins, which is a lot better than other 4th starters in this league. Alfonso Soriano is a younger version of Jose Valentin, only he'll steal more bases, and hit 10 more home runs. Plus he'll be making $8 million dollars next season in arbitration, if we trade for him, you can kiss the likes of us signing Vizquel or Koskie goodbye. And the fans in Texas were booing him last night as well, so take that FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I'd put soriano in the OF. Soriano didn't want to play CF for the Rangers this year I recall, so they had to keep him at 2B and move Michael Young to SS. Doubt he'll change his mind if we acquire him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 He's too brutal to play the infield. Sooner or later he won't have a choice...maybe DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearhater Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I dont understand the thinking of most of the people on this board who think we are a big market team, who is going to pick up these huge free agents in the offseason. Forget about getting the marquee names in the top or the order. If you want to improve the sox lineup, check out the black hole at the bottom of the order. To succeed in our below average division, with below average money, you need to imrove average players. How many people saw Paulie's offensive production coming??? Or how much did it cost us to bring in Maggs and Carlos??? These were not huge free agent pickups. The sox will never be the cubs or the yankees, phillies or red sox. We need to develop a team, not buy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 babybearhater I agree, you either have to buy a champion or develop one. The sox can't/won't do either. They try to put things together with baling twine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 lol think this Soriano, Uribe, Harris, and Valentin all on the same team next year. I'm positive it won't happen because I doubt Valentin will be signed and if Soriano is traded for, Harris could be gone also. Just a crazy 4 some there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 If Garland has no value, as it was implied in this thread, why are we hearing that thr Rangers are going to offer a "special player" for him. There's something here that just doesn't compute. Personally, I think a lot of people are under estimating Garland's trade value and drastically over estimating Soriano's value as a ballplayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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