Old Socks Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Where does Robbie rank among the all-time DH-s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Where does Robbie rank among the all-time DH-s? May i ask what your talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 May i ask what your talking about. My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Where does Robbie rank among the all-time DH-s? Near the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Near the bottom. I rank him ahead of Frank and Edgar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 May i ask what your talking about. Robbie was a DH today for the second time in a week. You ask what it is that I am talking about? I think it is a frigging joke that Ozzie puts that washed up, can't hit a lick Robbie Alomar into the lineup as a DH. So, you might say that I was being a little bit sarcastic. But if there is someone out there who can think of a worse hitter named as DH at least twice in one season, please enlighten us all. The first time, I thought Ozzie was trying to be funny for whatever sick reason. The second time, I think he insulted us all. We are a very weak hitting team, granted. What message is Ozzie sending, and to whom is he sending it by naming Robbie his DH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Robbie was a DH today for the second time in a week. You ask what it is that I am talking about? I think it is a frigging joke that Ozzie puts that washed up, can't hit a lick Robbie Alomar into the lineup as a DH. So, you might say that I was being a little bit sarcastic. But if there is someone out there who can think of a worse hitter named as DH at least twice in one season, please enlighten us all. The first time, I thought Ozzie was trying to be funny for whatever sick reason. The second time, I think he insulted us all. We are a very weak hitting team, granted. What message is Ozzie sending, and to whom is he sending it by naming Robbie his DH? Ever see some dh's when the national league play the american league? Here are a few. Robert fick. Brad fullmer. Ellis burks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yes. Your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yes. Your point? They are just as a bad if not worse then robbie. I mean when ricky ledee is your dh that is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 They are just as a bad if not worse then robbie. I mean when ricky ledee is your dh that is not good. Come on. I am not familiar with Ricky Ledee's stats, and I am not going to take the time to look them up, but compare Robbie's stats with the Sox to anyone. I don't care about Ricky Ledee. Ricky Ledee was not the point of my post. I think it is a joke and an insult for Ozzie to name that clown (Robbie) our DH. He can't hit, he can't run, and he obviously can't hustle, because he doesn't. I lost respect for Ozzie. The manager quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Ever see some dh's when the national league play the american league? Here are a few. Robert fick. Brad fullmer. Ellis burks. All three are better than Alomar is right now............... Now pick an AL team that fields a DH everyday and find a worse one..... I noticed Robbie at DH today as well, Old Socks and thought it was quite strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Thanks, Rex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Come on. I am not familiar with Ricky Ledee's stats, and I am not going to take the time to look them up, but compare Robbie's stats with the Sox to anyone. I don't care about Ricky Ledee. Ricky Ledee was not the point of my post. I think it is a joke and an insult for Ozzie to name that clown (Robbie) our DH. He can't hit, he can't run, and he obviously can't hustle, because he doesn't. I lost respect for Ozzie. The manager quit. Major overreaction on your part, IMO. Moyer is in there, a lefty, who else is he going to put in at DH? Think about it. The manager quit? Whatever. Speak for yourself on the "he insulted us all". I wasn't insulted, then again, I realize Alomar was the only right handed bat available to DH. Everett has the bad thumb or he would've been the guy, Sandy Alomar is reinstated but is still hurting. Not to mention, R. Alomar is a guy the Sox want to give at-bats to these next few weeks - no one seems to think so but it's important they see if this guy has anything left in the tank whatsoever. Unfortunately, his back acted up again today and that's why he was pulled after two at bats. He may be at the end of the line, but Ozzie and KW aren't quitting, they're trying to see if they can get anything out of him for next year. R. Alomar would love to end his career here, and he has major motivation for continuing to play, the 3000 hits are just 200+ off. There is a bigger picture here other than just one game. Sorry to go off on you a bit but you made some broad brush statements that I think are way off base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Major overreaction on your part, IMO. Moyer is in there, a lefty, who else is he going to put in at DH? Think about it. The manager quit? Whatever. Speak for yourself on the "he insulted us all". I wasn't insulted, then again, I realize Alomar was the only right handed bat available to DH. Everett has the bad thumb or he would've been the guy, Sandy Alomar is reinstated but is still hurting. Not to mention, R. Alomar is a guy the Sox want to give at-bats to these next few weeks - no one seems to think so but it's important they see if this guy has anything left in the tank whatsoever. Unfortunately, his back acted up again today and that's why he was pulled after two at bats. He may be at the end of the line, but Ozzie and KW aren't quitting, they're trying to see if they can get anything out of him for next year. R. Alomar would love to end his career here, and he has major motivation for continuing to play, the 3000 hits are just 200+ off. There is a bigger picture here other than just one game. Sorry to go off on you a bit but you made some broad brush statements that I think are way off base. Do you really think Robbie has "anything left in the tank?" That smacks of being very nieve. Who else can we DH? How about Timo; or Crede; or Davis; or Gload. Robbie is a joke, but I appreciate your loyalty. Really. And you really shouldn't go around saying you weren't insulted when someone insults you. And then he is too disabled to DH after two AB's? Robbie Alomar as DH in September, 2004 is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 All three are better than Alomar is right now............... All three of them are not better than alomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Do you really think Robbie has "anything left in the tank?" That smacks of being very nieve. Who else can we DH? How about Timo; or Crede; or Davis; or Gload. Robbie is a joke, but I appreciate your loyalty. Really. And you really shouldn't go around saying you weren't insulted when someone insults you. And then he is too disabled to DH after two AB's? Robbie Alomar as DH in September, 2004 is a joke. Sorry, disagree. I don't know if he has anything left in the tank, he's not been 100% healthy this year, first with the busted hand and now with the bad back. Very tough to make the call that the guy is finished when he's laboring with a bad back, but hey, it appears you've got dibs on the crystal ball. What's wrong with wanting to start a guy who hits righthanded against a left handed pitcher? Crede was at 3B. Perez and Gload may have done well, but they're lefthanded. Davis is the backup catcher and needed a breather after playing a lot lately. So, the manager quit, and insulted us to boot, because he started a future Hall of Famer who happens to switch hit at DH? Just how large is that jump to conclusion Jim? I'm not especially loyal to Robbie Alomar, but you say I am so it must be true. In truth, what I'm seeing is the Sox making sure of a situation. If the guy is healthy, and if he has something left, he will be very valuable to some team because he is very motivated to get to 3000. He'll try to hit singles instead of home runs, by the way that's a good thing for this team in 2005. I see what Guillen and Williams are doing here, and I'd just as soon they do it. I don't get insulted by it because I see the big picture, and generally ignore the Nostradamus-esque crystal ball statements of a fan who isn't close to the situation. Now, you may be right, he may be a joke and totally washed up. I'd rather they know for sure, and I'd rather better judges of talent than you (and me) make that determination. Plus, you hate anybody the White Sox get for those precious prospects, don'tcha Jim? Oh, one more thing. I'll make my own determinations of whether or not someone from the White Sox organization insults me, I don't need you to point it out for me, but thanks anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Who else can we DH? How about Timo; or Crede; or Davis; or Gload. Robbie is a joke, but I appreciate your loyalty. Timo, crede, and davis are head and shoulders better than robbie? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Timo, crede, and davis are head and shoulders better than robbie? No. Actually - yes, they are. Maybe when Robbie is hurt, they aren't but hell, I'll take Crede over the way Robbie is playing now, and that isn't saying much. I'll take that back. Robbie is one of the best bunters on this team. If we were in the playoff race, he'd be a nice backup off the bench in case we needed a key sac bunt. That's it. If his injury is causing him to hit sub-.200, he ought to be on the DL. Give Valdez some time up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Sort of. But it is still accerbated by the fact that he can't play any more. Bad back or no bad back. Robbie should retire. Yesterday. Making him the DH today to see if he can contribute next year?? Come on. He can't possibly take up a roster space next year, can he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Actually - yes, they are. Maybe when Robbie is hurt, they aren't but hell, I'll take Crede over the way Robbie is playing now, and that isn't saying much. I'll take that back. Robbie is one of the best bunters on this team. If we were in the playoff race, he'd be a nice backup off the bench in case we needed a key sac bunt. That's it. If his injury is causing him to hit sub-.200, he ought to be on the DL. Give Valdez some time up... My point is they are all not very good so it does not matter who would have started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Sort of. But it is still accerbated by the fact that he can't play any more. Bad back or no bad back. Robbie should retire. Yesterday. Making him the DH today to see if he can contribute next year?? Come on. He can't possibly take up a roster space next year, can he? If he is on this team some how next year i will cry. Doesn't matter he will be on this team next year one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Sort of. But it is still accerbated by the fact that he can't play any more. Bad back or no bad back. Robbie should retire. Yesterday. Making him the DH today to see if he can contribute next year?? Come on. He can't possibly take up a roster space next year, can he? Are you a scout, a GM, a manager, a trainer, or what? Not trying to be a wise ass, but the point being, you don't know that the guy is done. He had pretty decent numbers this year with Arizona in limited time. He had decent, not great, but decent numbers last year and did some good things. Very tough to make a definitive value judgement on him. Making the judgement is complicated by the fact he's not 100%. I wouldn't be shocked if there were a place for him in '05, in a platoon situation. Not saying it's an ideal situation, just that I wouldn't be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Robbie was awful last year (after his first 2-3 wks with us) and has been worse this year. Plus, someone told me that he will be a year OLDER next year. If you can't (or won't) run out a grounder, go some place else. He is toast. Edgar Martinez says he is done, and he is 100 times the hitter Robbie is. Robbie needs to make a graceful exit. All of which makes Robbie a great candidate for DH, which was where I started this thread. I'm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Robbie was awful last year (after his first 2-3 wks with us) and has been worse this year. Plus, someone told me that he will be a year OLDER next year. If you can't (or won't) run out a grounder, go some place else. He is toast. Edgar Martinez says he is done, and he is 100 times the hitter Robbie is. Robbie needs to make a graceful exit. All of which makes Robbie a great candidate for DH, which was where I started this thread. I'm done. He has a bad back, that doesn't make him done, but you have the crystal ball I guess. I'm done too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Joe Borchard is even a better DH than Alomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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