LDF Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 let think about it, this season may prove that it is a good time to be a pitcher who is a fa. with a lot of teams looking at improving their rotation, why would any sign with the sox. are we close to being a contender? (randy johnson wish) is kw going to open the jr pocket book to sign one? (only time and wishful thinking) b/c they love the tradition of being on the team?(hahaha) why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Dunno why. Different people have different reasons. Maybe they're a close friend of Guillen. Maybe they grew up in Chicago. Not saying anyone would sign here, just saying, there's so many factors it's hard to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Because we offer them a better contract then the next team, probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 The contract is key. Also, don't forget Chicago is the favorite road city of MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 I'm not sure, but I heard that green paper is a good tool of persuasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I'm not sure, but I heard that green paper is a good tool of persuasion. i dont know where you heard that, but it is completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 More and more, guys are looking for a good fit, both for themselves in terms of teammates/manager/clubhouse, but also for their wife and kids. If they have kids in school, our suburban schools are as good as any. Most women love Chicago, and they wouldn't have to deal with the rough winters. It usually comes down to the contract, but when these guys already have more money than they know what to do with, other factors come into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Don't forget our usually potent offense can make an average pitcher look pretty good sometimes. Especially if he is a ground ball type pitcher. Who wouldn't enjoy several runs per game of support? PLus a good contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 1) We play in a winnable division. 2) Chicago is a great city to play baseball in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 The Latin clubhouse could play a big factor, as could Ozzie. He has a lot of friends around the league, and it has already netted us Freddy Garcia. I really get the feeling that we will be in the Pedro sweepstakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 The Latin clubhouse could play a big factor, as could Ozzie. He has a lot of friends around the league, and it has already netted us Freddy Garcia. I really get the feeling that we will be in the Pedro sweepstakes. Pedro will get 12 million a year this off season, find it hard to believe they are willing to dish that much out on 1 starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Pedro will get 12 million a year this off season, find it hard to believe they are willing to dish that much out on 1 starter. Well no one thought they would put out $55 million for Albert Belle either.... KW has said he wants a front line starter, and with the axe job that Pedro is getting in Boston, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox made a solid pitch for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Because Chicago has great grinders to eat but not as FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Well no one thought they would put out $55 million for Albert Belle either.... KW has said he wants a front line starter, and with the axe job that Pedro is getting in Boston, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox made a solid pitch for him. I would much rather go for a starter with a little lesser talent that is 2-4 million dollars less per year. But is capable of putting up excellent numbers. Because we could then you that additional money else where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I would much rather go for a starter with a little lesser talent that is 2-4 million dollars less per year. But is capable of putting up excellent numbers. Because we could then you that additional money else where. This team is finally learning that it can score runs without Maggs and Frank. When we get back Frank next year this offense will be fine. If you add Pedro to the mix, the most this team needs to win is better LH power balance in the starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 This team is finally learning that it can score runs without Maggs and Frank. When we get back Frank next year this offense will be fine. If you add Pedro to the mix, the most this team needs to win is better LH power balance in the starters. I agree the offense just needs a left handed hitter but i also think they need some bullpen help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I agree the offense just needs a left handed hitter but i also think they need some bullpen help. The pen is OK now that Jackson and Koch are gone, as long as they bring back Politte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 The pen is OK now that Jackson and Koch are gone, as long as they bring back Politte. I am not saying a pen like the yankees, expos, or cardinals. But wouldn't it be nice to have a better than o.k. pen for once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I am not saying a pen like the yankees, expos, or cardinals. But wouldn't it be nice to have a better than o.k. pen for once? I really believe with Takatsu and Marte at the end of the pen, added to the year of development for Cotts and Adkins, mixed in with Pollitte and a long man, that we would have a very good bullpen. The majority of teams would be jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I really believe with Takatsu and Marte at the end of the pen, added to the year of development for Cotts and Adkins, mixed in with Pollitte and a long man, that we would have a very good bullpen. The majority of teams would be jealous. You seem to be one of the few like myself that think politte is very valuable. But anyways quite a bit of relievers in free agency that should be pretty cheap and can possibly solidify the pen for basically nothing. Might be worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 You seem to be one of the few like myself that think politte is very valuable. But anyways quite a bit of relievers in free agency that should be pretty cheap and can possibly solidify the pen for basically nothing. Might be worth a try. I'm not looking at Cliff to be the closer. For a seventh inning guy he is solid. He isn't making a lot of money in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I'm not looking at Cliff to be the closer. For a seventh inning guy he is solid. He isn't making a lot of money in the first place. I agree, outside of a few bad outings he has been great for his role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Cliff does seem to be a good pitcher as long as he is not closing or in a tie game in the 9th. In those situations, it seems like his balls get sucked up into his body and he forgets that he is a major league pitcher with some good heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Pedro will get 12 million a year this off season, find it hard to believe they are willing to dish that much out on 1 starter. $12 mill would be stolen. I would almost count on the Yankees offering him ATLEAST $15 mill a year, and possibly more. They need pitching worse then us, and that says something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 $12 mill would be stolen. I would almost count on the Yankees offering him ATLEAST $15 mill a year, and possibly more. They need pitching worse then us, and that says something. I was just being on the low side. Imo no chance in hell we even get close to signing him. And if we were to go after him why not try to go after two pitchers such as perez and radke or some sort of combination like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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