DBAHO Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 From the Washington Post, In addition to the $18 million coming off the books, team sources indicate the Orioles plan to sever ties with Palmeiro and Jay Gibbons after the season, a potential savings of another $8 million to $9 million. According to those sources, the Orioles again plan to be aggressive in the free agent market, with their top targets including right-handed pitcher Carl Pavano and right fielder Magglio Ordoñez. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 From the Washington Post, if mags injury is as bad as it is, he could always play the dh role. offer mags arb and a salary laden contract and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Gibbons could be a decent young RF replacement. Why would they want to cut ties with him? He has been injured a tad this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 12, 2004 Author Share Posted September 12, 2004 Gibbons could be a decent young RF replacement. Why would they want to cut ties with him? He has been injured a tad this year. Gibbons would make about $4 million next season, which is what Everett will be making I think, or about $4.5 million. Gibbons' numbers this season are .216 with 9 HR's. OUCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Gibbons could be a decent young RF replacement. Why would they want to cut ties with him? He has been injured a tad this year. Don't be so quick to jump on the free agent signing band wagon. Gibbons is NOT a decent replacement. Look at his stats. It may be that we give Borchard a chance to produce or be gone and also start to develop our own. Pitching is where I think we will need the free agent money spent. The Sox rave about Grilli. Nine hits and 5 runs in 5 innings? Nothing to rave about. A long reliever he might be, but I am just not certain yet about his ability to be the every fifth day starter. Diaz maybe, but he could be in the bullpen too. I see a reshaping of that bullpen crew and an addition of a power closer along with another starter to be our priorities. I would also like to see a run at Maggs made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Gibbons would make about $4 million next season, which is what Everett will be making I think, or about $4.5 million. Gibbons' numbers this season are .216 with 9 HR's. OUCH. He's also the ugliest man in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Even with Maggs I don't think that'll make Baltimore better, he need a stronger pitching staff. Their 3 power hitting aquisations didn't work out as many would have hoped even though Tejada is a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Stay away from Gibbons. After a whole years worth of playing time, Borchard would put up better numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 j borchard - give him a chance to prove he belong or get rid of him grilli - give him a chance to see if he can do it cotts - give him a chance to see if he can do it diaz - give him a chance blah blah there are a couple of more that i haven't mention so...... don't you guys see a trend here, we are going with alot of questions here for next yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Yeah we do have a lot of questions for next year. I personally say, start Cotts, Grilli, and Diaz for the rest of the year. At least give Cotts another start or two before the end of the year. Grilli and Diaz are already part of the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Yeah we do have a lot of questions for next year. I personally say, start Cotts, Grilli, and Diaz for the rest of the year. At least give Cotts another start or two before the end of the year. Grilli and Diaz are already part of the rotation. Cotts is not stretched out, he could easily get hurt if all of a sudden you start asking him to throw 80 pitches. We talk about this all the time on this site, and yet we continually see posts about "let's start Cotts". It's not that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Cotts is not stretched out, he could easily get hurt if all of a sudden you start asking him to throw 80 pitches. We talk about this all the time on this site, and yet we continually see posts about "let's start Cotts". It's not that simple. Yeah that's true, but that doesn't mean he can't go 3 innings. Let him do that. Are you a fan of giving Cotts a chance to start next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 don't you guys see a trend here, we are going with alot of questions here for next yr We had more question marks going into THIS year then we will next year. Coming into this year, we had no 2Bman, no CFer, Big Mo and Sandy behind the plate(and they hit about .240 combined last year), a rotation that consisted of Buehrle-Loaiza-Garland-Schoenweis-Wright(so basically 2 holes), we had 1 real solid reliever we knew was going to be good(and even Marte has been shaky this year), and then there were question marks in Crede, Garland, and Konerko, along with having one of the best(if not the best) bench coach retiring before the season, along with a rookie manager who had NEVER managed a game before. Had you told me before the season that we would lose Maggs and Frank for about a combined 200 games, I would have said that this team would finish with fewer then 70 wins. And to think, we will finish .500, atleast, and probably, not possibly, better then that. Take that into consideration before you talk about our holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 He's also the ugliest man in baseball. take a nice look at Gary Majewski or Nick Johnson of the Expos they are leaps and bounds uglier than G-Bone. Wonder why that team is being contracted? Ugly players. dont forget Jon Rauch is on that team too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 lol Nick Johnson is pretty bad, and I'd the Montreal is the ugliest franchise in baseball. Being owned by the league and all doesn't help either. 500th post for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 He's also the ugliest man in baseball. Randy Johnson will always come to mind when you talk about that department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Even with Maggs I don't think that'll make Baltimore better, he need a stronger pitching staff. Their 3 power hitting aquisations didn't work out as many would have hoped even though Tejada is a good player. Javy lopez has been solid. So really only one of their pick-ups have done nothing. And even palmeiro onb is not terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Lopez is having a fine year. I'm just saying that Baltimore fans expected a better year as a team with signing those 3 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Lopez is having a fine year. I'm just saying that Baltimore fans expected a better year as a team with signing those 3 players. They've had s*** for pitching, so that's probably one reason why they've been bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 They've had s*** for pitching, so that's probably one reason why they've been bad. Exactly if the fans are smart they did not expect much outside of alot of runs scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 We had more question marks going into THIS year then we will next year. Coming into this year, we had no 2Bman, no CFer, Big Mo and Sandy behind the plate(and they hit about .240 combined last year), a rotation that consisted of Buehrle-Loaiza-Garland-Schoenweis-Wright(so basically 2 holes), we had 1 real solid reliever we knew was going to be good(and even Marte has been shaky this year), and then there were question marks in Crede, Garland, and Konerko, along with having one of the best(if not the best) bench coach retiring before the season, along with a rookie manager who had NEVER managed a game before. Had you told me before the season that we would lose Maggs and Frank for about a combined 200 games, I would have said that this team would finish with fewer then 70 wins. And to think, we will finish .500, atleast, and probably, not possibly, better then that. Take that into consideration before you talk about our holes. i don't quite remember it that way. the only real question mark was cf. if i remember right and i am admitting that i may be wrong, (b/c i been a whole of wrong this weekend), but a lot of people were confident on willie at 2b, big mo doing well behind the plate, and i remember that many said the rotation was very good esp if sho comes thru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 and i remember that many said the rotation was very good esp if sho comes thru. When garland is your three you do not have a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 When garland is your three you do not have a good team. were you saying that in the beginning of this yr or is this something that you are saying now??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 were you saying that in the beginning of this yr or is this something that you are saying now??? At the beginning of the year. Which means since he was are three we should have not had any any expectations for them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 j borchard - give him a chance to prove he belong or get rid of him grilli - give him a chance to see if he can do it cotts - give him a chance to see if he can do it diaz - give him a chance blah blah there are a couple of more that i haven't mention so...... don't you guys see a trend here, we are going with alot of questions here for next yr Yeah our once vaunted farm system ain't producing squat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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