LowerCaseRepublican Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_...ss&c=31,1034852 Indicators measure the nation’s unemployment rate, consumer spending and other economic milestones, but Vice President Dick Cheney says it misses the hundreds of thousands who make money selling on eBay. . “That’s a source that didn’t even exist 10 years ago,” Cheney told an audience in Cincinnati on Thursday. “Four hundred thousand people make some money trading on eBay.” "If we only included bake sales and how much money kids make at lemonade stands, this economy would really be cooking,” Edwards said in a statement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_...ss&c=31,1034852 Cheney really tried to use Ebay as an excuse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 lol i love that! I really would love to see these two guys debate. It would be freaking hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Hose Jon Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I heart John Edwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 i wish he were the presidential candidate.... he's better than kerry and bush by a LONG shot... *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Yeah I want to see these two guys debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Its sad, but I think out of all 4 of the Pres/VP canditiates, Edwards is the only one who might have a clue how ordinary folks live. Sidenote, did anyone watch the Bush vs Kerry Bling off on MTV? Sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Its sad, but I think out of all 4 of the Pres/VP canditiates, Edwards is the only one who might have a clue how ordinary folks live. Yeah it's sad that Kerry got the nomination based on his ability to beat Bush. Yet to me it seems that Edwards is a more charismatic likable guy, more Clintonesque, and would have a better chance dethroning the powers that be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Yeah it's sad that Kerry got the nomination based on his ability to beat Bush. Yet to me it seems that Edwards is a more charismatic likable guy, more Clintonesque, and would have a better chance dethroning the powers that be. Edwards would have beaten the snot out of any of the other 3, no doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Edwards would have beaten the snot out of any of the other 3, no doubt about it. 2012, baby! *points to sig* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Cheney is right. Some eBayers are full time sellers, others are selling overseas on the internet and that doesn't count in our economic numbers. Then there are the barters and traders who are underreporting their sales/transactions. You also have the cash workers like auto mechanics who work part time out of their garages. Too bad Edwards and the rest of his party aren't bright enough to understand that. This may be the lasting legacy of Bush's terms, the cash economy. We don't need some fancy rhetoric in the oval office. We need a tough wrangler like Bush to stare down terrorists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Cheney is right. Some eBayers are full time sellers, others are selling overseas on the internet and that doesn't count in our economic numbers. Then there are the barters and traders who are underreporting their sales/transactions. You also have the cash workers like auto mechanics who work part time out of their garages. Too bad Edwards and the rest of his party aren't bright enough to understand that. This may be the lasting legacy of Bush's terms, the cash economy. We don't need some fancy rhetoric in the oval office. We need a tough wrangler like Bush to stare down terrorists. Of course there are some, but the point Edwards was trying to make was that if Cheney is trying to make it seem like our economy is in a GOOD state by mentioning a few internet auctioners (very small percent of total population), he is WAY out of line, because the economy is horrible, and such a small percent of the population is nowhere near close to making this a good economy. It is simply one 'profession' out of thousands, and even if it made a minimal impact on the economy's overall numbers, it is STILL terrible. Instead of Cheney making excuses, he should accept and admit the state of the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Cheney is right. Some eBayers are full time sellers, others are selling overseas on the internet and that doesn't count in our economic numbers. Then there are the barters and traders who are underreporting their sales/transactions. You also have the cash workers like auto mechanics who work part time out of their garages. Too bad Edwards and the rest of his party aren't bright enough to understand that. This may be the lasting legacy of Bush's terms, the cash economy. We don't need some fancy rhetoric in the oval office. We need a tough wrangler like Bush to stare down terrorists. You're trying your best today aren't you? That's Flame bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Of course there are some, but the point Edwards was trying to make was that if Cheney is trying to make it seem like our economy is in a GOOD state by mentioning a few internet auctioners (very small percent of total population), he is WAY out of line, because the economy is horrible, and such a small percent of the population is nowhere near close to making this a good economy. It is simply one 'profession' out of thousands, and even if it made a minimal impact on the economy's overall numbers, it is STILL terrible. Instead of Cheney making excuses, he should accept and admit the state of the economy. You're buying into the media's negative portrayal. The networks and newspapers do not want to admit the internet is helping millions of people make considerable incomes. Poor Bush, he's got a big battle to get out the truth and no where to tell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Of course there are some, but the point Edwards was trying to make was that if Cheney is trying to make it seem like our economy is in a GOOD state by mentioning a few internet auctioners (very small percent of total population), he is WAY out of line, because the economy is horrible, and such a small percent of the population is nowhere near close to making this a good economy. It is simply one 'profession' out of thousands, and even if it made a minimal impact on the economy's overall numbers, it is STILL terrible. Instead of Cheney making excuses, he should accept and admit the state of the economy. Sorry dude, he is mocking you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Cheney is right. Some eBayers are full time sellers, others are selling overseas on the internet and that doesn't count in our economic numbers. Then there are the barters and traders who are underreporting their sales/transactions. You also have the cash workers like auto mechanics who work part time out of their garages. Too bad Edwards and the rest of his party aren't bright enough to understand that. This may be the lasting legacy of Bush's terms, the cash economy. We don't need some fancy rhetoric in the oval office. We need a tough wrangler like Bush to stare down terrorists. Shouldn't that be in green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Sorry dude, he is mocking you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Shouldn't that be in green Nope, the internet has created a unique situation in our economy. How much money flows out to internet sites in pornography and gambling sites? Those people are making money but not being reported in US numbers. Bartering is at it's biggest levels in over 100 years. The internet has opened up opportunities for bartering beyond the neighberhood dentist swapping services with the auto mechanic. Do a search and find out how easy it is to join a bartering club. It is more than eBay and lemonaid stands. We are still adding up economic growth with 1950s technology. Bush's policies have resulted in a free business climate that is really working. People are more willing to invest overseas and expand beyond our borders. As their personal wealth increases, they spend more money here in the US creating more jobs then if they didn't move some jobs overseas. Kerry wanting to penalize business owners for wanting to earn more money by moving jobs oberseas will hurt us in the long run because when these owners make less, they won't spend as much, and new jobs will not be created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Nope, the internet has created a unique situation in our economy. How much money flows out to internet sites in pornography and gambling sites? Those people are making money but not being reported in US numbers. Bartering is at it's biggest levels in over 100 years. The internet has opened up opportunities for bartering beyond the neighberhood dentist swapping services with the auto mechanic. Do a search and find out how easy it is to join a bartering club. It is more than eBay and lemonaid stands. We are still adding up economic growth with 1950s technology. Bush's policies have resulted in a free business climate that is really working. People are more willing to invest overseas and expand beyond our borders. As their personal wealth increases, they spend more money here in the US creating more jobs then if they didn't move some jobs overseas. Kerry wanting to penalize business owners for wanting to earn more money by moving jobs oberseas will hurt us in the long run because when these owners make less, they won't spend as much, and new jobs will not be created. The only problem with your plan is that the jobs that get created pay less then the jobs that are going overseas. When the only jobs people are able to get pay 7 dollars or less an hour then no one is going to be able to invest in anything or spend any money. I'm sorry but i'm not comfortable having people ship all of the jobs we have no overseas on the chance that we "might" create more jobs somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 guys i have friends in texas and trust me theres no point in debating politics with them they are bush supporters no matter what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 The only problem with your plan is that the jobs that get created pay less then the jobs that are going overseas. When the only jobs people are able to get pay 7 dollars or less an hour then no one is going to be able to invest in anything or spend any money. I'm sorry but i'm not comfortable having people ship all of the jobs we have no overseas on the chance that we "might" create more jobs somewhere else. Nope, trickle down works. We must allow the real movers and shakers in the world to make even more money. They already are paying too much in taxes. If we cut their taxes and allow their companies to earn even more in profits, we all win down the road. That is the GOP tax plan and as a new proud conservative, I support it 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 The thing I most respect about Edwards was that he's earned everything he has. He wasn't given a damn thing. Wasn't born into privledge, just busted his butt to get to where he is today. That's the American Dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 on a side note, how will the unemployment rate change when the hundreds of thousands of reservists come back to the US and back to their jobs which are protected by law. One of 2 things will happen... * The person that replaced them, (full or temp) will get fired. * The business will decide to absorb 2 people for that position or create a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 The thing I most respect about Edwards was that he's earned everything he has. He wasn't given a damn thing. Wasn't born into privledge, just busted his butt to get to where he is today. That's the American Dream. Bush made his money in the oil industry. The most cut thoat there is. He also worked his way into prestigous Ivy League Universities. Nobody gave our President anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Bush made his money in the oil industry. The most cut thoat there is. He also worked his way into prestigous Ivy League Universities. Nobody gave our President anything. s*** if I knew that Ivy League schools would except C- grades, I would have sent in an application to Harvard. Next time put that post in GREEN He's bankrupted how many businesses? It's been reported that his only profitable arrangement was the Texas Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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