Queen Prawn Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I am not asking why you support/don't support war in Iraq, but why so much hostility against people utilizing their constitutional right to protest? Why so much hostility towards someone with which you disagree? So many people seem to confuse supporting troops and supporting war. They are two different animals. My brother has 4 friends over there - kids that I watched grow up and I support them in the fullest and pray they come home to their families, but I do not support this war. Now I know I will get flamed for expressing my opinion, but I also know I would not flame anyone else for expressing their opinion. That is what I don't understand - a country that is for freedom of all forms is so intolerant to each other's freedom to have an opposing opinion. Rather hypocrytical, don't you think? I am not looking to start a fight of any kind, but I am trying to understand the intolerance - coming from those who support the war and those that don't - I am seeing all over the place, not just here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 because when your over there doing something you may or may not believe in, but doing your job just the same, cause you were called upon by your boss (the president) to carry out what he feels is right in his mind.....and then you see people over here who are protesting against your boss.. it makes you feel like they are protesting against you too cause your doing his work......do you understand that... its most likely the best way i can explain it right now ...........see the troops (some of the fortunate ones anyhow if you can call them that) get to see some tv.. msnbc, c-span, foxnews whatever.. and when they see that folks back here on the homefront are against the war, protesting and what not its really not a moral booster...........we would rather think that everyone is behind our bosses decision and behind us for being there.... here maybe if you just ask a viet nam vet how he felt when coming home and being spit upon by his own people, not being able to cash a government check at his local bank and what not.......im sure you would understand it better.... protesters for the most part dont think about long term effects of their actions .. they are out there for their cause and live in the" right now i have to speak and make everyone hear me at any cost" type of world.........ask a lady who wears a fur coat which costs a few grand how she feels when shes walking down the city streets and is bombarded by paint and a mad mob.......ask those folks who were trying to get home last nite from the city or get into the city to work or enjoy a nite out how they felt sitting in hours of traffic cause of these morons blocking the main streets..........im sure youll find a few upset folks there.....everyone knows how much we all love to sit in traffic..... the main reason im against these particular protesters is they dont think of the long term reactions of their actions............most never do.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted March 21, 2003 Author Share Posted March 21, 2003 protesting against your boss.. it makes you feel like they are protesting against you too cause your doing his work......do you understand that... its most likely the best way i can explain it right now ...........see the I would hope that their minds aren't that weak that they can't understand that it isn't them it's their boss. I asked my co-worker who was a Korean war vet and he said he is against this war, but totally supports the troops. My mom knows several Vietnam vets and one Gulf war vet and she said they are all vehemently against this war, but they are praying for the safe return of the troops. I am not saying they are the majority opinion or anything like that, but you said to talk to Vietnam Vets and well, that's what they said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 no i said ask a veitnam vet how he felt when he came home to have his own people spitting on him.........re read it.......there is a difference in the answer youll get..............and i dont know too many desert storm vets who are against this war.. they are feeling badly we didnt take care of business the first time around so we could have prevented this war... there is a big difference in that too.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 because people don't like to think that anyone disagrees with them visual proof that people disagree gives a focus for venting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I am not asking why you support/don't support war in Iraq, but why so much hostility against people utilizing their constitutional right to protest? Why so much hostility towards someone with which you disagree? So many people seem to confuse supporting troops and supporting war. They are two different animals. My brother has 4 friends over there - kids that I watched grow up and I support them in the fullest and pray they come home to their families, but I do not support this war. Now I know I will get flamed for expressing my opinion, but I also know I would not flame anyone else for expressing their opinion. That is what I don't understand - a country that is for freedom of all forms is so intolerant to each other's freedom to have an opposing opinion. Rather hypocrytical, don't you think? I am not looking to start a fight of any kind, but I am trying to understand the intolerance - coming from those who support the war and those that don't - I am seeing all over the place, not just here. why so much hostility for people who support the war???...we have been called racists , war mongers, right wing zealots ,accused of helping to promote genocide ..lot of other crap...not necessarily on this board but its happening.. plus has it been supporters or protestors of this war that have been breaking the law??..to me , alot of the protestors act like spoiled little kids...gee , you didnt get your way so now you going to break the law to try and prove your point...time for them to grow up.. go ahead and protest all you want...hopefully within the rules of the law...but when we have troops in harms way and there are sign saying bush is hitler...we are committing genocide and vile crap like that...dont be surprised if the other side gets pissed off.. just a thought but how can someone who is against the war and carry a sign saying we are committing genocide also support the troops???..arnt they supporting troops that are committing this so called genocide ???.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Well I am proud about the way my school is handling its business. The school has decided not to make any type of resolution and to concentrate on its job, which is dealing with student affairs and improving the school. Since i'm their to learn, I like to know that the people are spending their time while getting paid on that. Also, a group of teachers were protesting and telling students to cut class and they were cutting class. This is a bunch of crap, they are there, getting paid to teach students and they are screwing their students that are paying tuition to go to that school. YOu want to protest, do it on your own time. Its not your job to share your opinion in a class, unless you tell them its your opinion, and if you allow other students to debate back and tell their side of the opinion. As far as the protesting goes, I have no problem with it as long as they don't stop people that aren't taking part of it. Stay on the sidewalk, don't throw glass or rhubarb at cops and don't throw cones into the street while their is incoming traffic. Thats a danger to everyone else. You want to protest, stand in the freaking sidewalk, go to a park, but don't inconvient those that want no part in it. Oh ya, try to make them a bit more peaceful, instead of throwing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 plus has it been supporters or protestors of this war that have been breaking the law??..to me , alot of the protestors act like spoiled little kids...gee , you didnt get your way so now you going to break the law to try and prove your point...time for them to grow up.. That's how you change things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Oh Baggio, poor guy, you have been so picked on. I am so glad that the pro-war people have been so above name calling and casting aspersions and making comparisons of beinmg apologists for Hitler and every other such thing. The pro war side has been so noble and pure and spotless and holy. You poor, poor guy to have suffered so from the hands of the evil peaceniks, the bastards, I hope bad things happen to them. You've been through so much - how do you bear it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 The TV is showing Iraqi civilians celebrating our arrival and beating paintings of Hussein with shoes. So why should we protest? They obviously support us and they know what its like to live under Saddam and we dont. So we shouldnt complain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 The TV is showing Iraqi civilians celebrating our arrival and beating paintings of Hussein with shoes. So why should we protest? They obviously support us and they know what its like to live under Saddam and we dont. So we shouldnt complain... BECAUSE IT'S THEIR RIGHT. Oh for the love of God... move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 plus has it been supporters or protestors of this war that have been breaking the law??..to me , alot of the protestors act like spoiled little kids...gee , you didnt get your way so now you going to break the law to try and prove your point...time for them to grow up.. That's how you change things. no its not.. you write your congressmen and women or you make a trip to washington dc, or your state capitol in person and voice your opinion in an open forum and let the law makers and shakers know your feelings.. you dont have to break the law to make a point...........it only makes people like us who do things the legal way hate people like radical law breakers more because you hamper the cause with the illegal acts....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 plus has it been supporters or protestors of this war that have been breaking the law??..to me , alot of the protestors act like spoiled little kids...gee , you didnt get your way so now you going to break the law to try and prove your point...time for them to grow up.. That's how you change things. Yeah..... start fights with the police, vandalize privately owned businesses, create traffic havoc for fire trucks and ambulances that may have to get to a dying person..... all the while, claiming Bush should be working on the economy while the city your protesting in has to spend more money on OT for emergency services because this is the only way protesters have to "change things"..... that truly is the best way to go about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 just a thought but how can someone who is against the war and carry a sign saying we are committing genocide also support the troops???..arnt they supporting troops that are committing this so called genocide ???.. Nevermind the fact that they completely ignore the genocide perpetrated by Saddam Hussein..... at the end of all this, he will have killed more Iraqi's than the US forces in both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 I am so glad that the pro-war people have been so above name calling and casting aspersions and making comparisons of beinmg apologists for Hitler and every other such thing. You're the one quoting Goering..... not me, not Baggs, and not HSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Nevermind the fact that they completely ignore the genocide perpetrated by Saddam Hussein..... at the end of all this, he will have killed more Iraqi's than the US forces in both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Conviently forgetting sanctions, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Nevermind the fact that they completely ignore the genocide perpetrated by Saddam Hussein..... at the end of all this, he will have killed more Iraqi's than the US forces in both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Conviently forgetting sanctions, I suppose. Some reports have Saddam killing more than 100,000 of his own people during his tyranny. And sanctions are brought on by Saddam willingly invading a neighboring country..... not anything the US willingly did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Nevermind the fact that they completely ignore the genocide perpetrated by Saddam Hussein..... at the end of all this, he will have killed more Iraqi's than the US forces in both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Conviently forgetting sanctions, I suppose. Some reports have Saddam killing more than 100,000 of his own people during his tyranny. And sanctions are brought on by Saddam willingly invading a neighboring country..... not anything the US willingly did. Well first, the Kuwatis were slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields. Or essentially they were walking into Iraq and stealing millions of dollars from them. If Mexico tried that sort of shenanigan with the US, they, too, would most likely be subject to an ass-whooping. And anyways, the UN-backed sanctions sat there for twelve years and have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and no one ever did jack s*** about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Nevermind the fact that they completely ignore the genocide perpetrated by Saddam Hussein..... at the end of all this, he will have killed more Iraqi's than the US forces in both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Conviently forgetting sanctions, I suppose. Some reports have Saddam killing more than 100,000 of his own people during his tyranny. And sanctions are brought on by Saddam willingly invading a neighboring country..... not anything the US willingly did. Well first, the Kuwatis were slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields. Or essentially they were walking into Iraq and stealing millions of dollars from them. If Mexico tried that sort of shenanigan with the US, they, too, would most likely be subject to an ass-whooping. And anyways, the UN-backed sanctions sat there for twelve years and have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and no one ever did jack s*** about it. so are you for the war or against whos arguement you trying to fight for here you. just gave enough evidence to give good reason to go to war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Exactly, the UN didn't do jack s***, and finally those that want to get something done have decided to do it themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 And anyways, the UN-backed sanctions sat there for twelve years and have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and no one ever did jack s*** about it. You wanted to give the UN more time to search for Saddam's WOMD..... which he obviously had..... to avoid the Iraq War but you have a problem with the UN-backed sanctions? MAKE UP YOUR MIND MAN!!!!! Either you agree with what you want the UN to do, and subsequently, what they do, or stop using the UN as your reasoning for why the US should not have invaded Iraq. That's like some on this board using the Constitution to tear into the "Patriot Act" but burning the Constitution in regards to the Second Amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Nevermind the fact that they completely ignore the genocide perpetrated by Saddam Hussein..... at the end of all this, he will have killed more Iraqi's than the US forces in both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Conviently forgetting sanctions, I suppose. Some reports have Saddam killing more than 100,000 of his own people during his tyranny. And sanctions are brought on by Saddam willingly invading a neighboring country..... not anything the US willingly did. Well first, the Kuwatis were slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields. Or essentially they were walking into Iraq and stealing millions of dollars from them. If Mexico tried that sort of shenanigan with the US, they, too, would most likely be subject to an ass-whooping. And anyways, the UN-backed sanctions sat there for twelve years and have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and no one ever did jack s*** about it. so are you for the war or against whos arguement you trying to fight for here you. just gave enough evidence to give good reason to go to war Doub just stated that if Mexico was slant-drilling into Texas then we would have reason for giving Mexico an "Iraq-esque"..... as he said it..... "ass-whooping." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 doubleM23 must be a really confused person. has are most the protesters on this issue too. some stupid b**** in my goverment class got her ass wooped on in a debate in government. she tryed saying the only reason we are goin to war is for oil. It is has if these people are ok with killing your citizens just to test out some new weapon i just got from the U.S. We are cleaning up a mess we created by giving suddan those weapons, and putting him in power. Now if china would step up and take on N. Korea after giving them nukes we would be set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Nevermind the fact that they completely ignore the genocide perpetrated by Saddam Hussein..... at the end of all this, he will have killed more Iraqi's than the US forces in both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Conviently forgetting sanctions, I suppose. Some reports have Saddam killing more than 100,000 of his own people during his tyranny. And sanctions are brought on by Saddam willingly invading a neighboring country..... not anything the US willingly did. Well first, the Kuwatis were slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields. Or essentially they were walking into Iraq and stealing millions of dollars from them. If Mexico tried that sort of shenanigan with the US, they, too, would most likely be subject to an ass-whooping. And anyways, the UN-backed sanctions sat there for twelve years and have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and no one ever did jack s*** about it. so are you for the war or against whos arguement you trying to fight for here you. just gave enough evidence to give good reason to go to war Doub just stated that if Mexico was slant-drilling into Texas then we would have reason for giving Mexico an "Iraq-esque"..... as he said it..... "ass-whooping." OK and the weapons you has used on his own "fellow iraqis" is somehow warrented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 she tryed saying the only reason we are goin to war is for oil. It is has if these people are ok with killing your citizens just to test out some new weapon i just got from the U.S. I wish I could have gone up to some of the protestors in Chicago last night..... the one's with "No Blood For Oil" signs..... who claimed they came all the way from ISU..... exactly how long it takes to walk from ISU to Chicago since they claimed they left early in the AM after their classes were done for the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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