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is it just me or has he been on a hot streak of late seems like he started it when we were just but eliminated.... has his september earn him another chance at the hot corner next year?  :unsure:

Last we he has hit .471 with an obp of .500.

In september he ahs hit .292 with an obp of .346. I don't think he deserves another year but many pthers will disagree most likely. I am just not a fan of his sub .300 obp. ;)

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No doubt Crede's late season surge is due to lack of pressure. Two seasons ago he put together a spectacular September which, coicidentally, was following Minnesotas clinch.

 

Unfortunatley Crede will remain at 3B next season. A viable minor League replacement is nonexistent and there remains other positions to upgrade.

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well i wouldnt mind him getting the starting nod if we upgrade elsewhere... it would be a dream come true if we give magz a 1 year heavy incentive deal sign beltran and then a guy like russ ortiz or odalis perez and trade konerko and rowand for some solid players all around but that would be 2 good to be true :pray

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well i wouldnt mind him getting the starting nod if we upgrade elsewhere... it would be a dream come true if we give magz a 1 year heavy incentive deal sign beltran and then a guy like russ ortiz or odalis perez and trade konerko and rowand for some solid players all around but that would be 2 good to be true :pray

Your suggesting the Sox trade Rowand? No way in hell. You simply don't trade cheap, young talent unless the other team is willing to overpay. I'd rather sign Beltran and move Rowand to right. Even with an incentive laden contract Maggs will be commanding a higher salary than Aaron.

 

Honestly, I've come to accept Magglios departure from this team. We simply can't risk paying him ANY amount.

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well i wouldnt mind him getting the starting nod if we upgrade elsewhere... it would be a dream come true if we give magz a 1 year heavy incentive deal sign beltran and then a guy like russ ortiz or odalis perez and trade konerko and rowand for some solid players all around but that would be 2 good to be true :pray

Rowand doesn't fit the definition of "solid player all around"? In my opinion, he does.

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In the opinion of anyone who's ever seen him play, he's a solid all-around player.

And probably the best one we have. Trading Rowand, would be really, really stupid, unless a readymade replacement like Juan Pierre was coming the other way.

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He is a slightly lesser version of beltran except he will be making about 15 million less next season.

Aaron Rowand would probably be one of the best value for money center fielder's in the league. You wouldn't get a player who's making as much money as he is, putting up the kind of numbers he has this season. You could definitely make a case for Vernon Wells, but he's making $870,000 compared to $350,000 which is what A-Row is making I think. Rocco Baldelli is another, but his numbers are slightly down from A-Row's at .281, 15HR's and 71 RBI's. Lew Ford is another, but he's probably more of a left fielder.

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Unfortunatley Crede will remain at 3B next season.  A viable minor League replacement is nonexistent and there remains other positions to upgrade.

We did draft Josh Fields you know. Probably a couple years away from the majors but I think Crede can fill in nicely till Fields is ready. Crede does have 21 homers and he hits a hard .230.

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I'm glad Crede is doing good this September, however, I think it's pretty obvious that he can't do that well for a whole year straight. I supposed it'd be ok if the Sox gave him another chance next year but if the same happens again, Crede won't be a Sox member in 2006.

Crede=headcase trade him please, I bet there is a team out there that is willing to give us a new bat rack or maybe a bottle of pine tar for him. :huh

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No doubt Crede's late season surge is due to lack of pressure.  Two seasons ago he put together a spectacular September which, coicidentally, was following Minnesotas clinch. 

 

Unfortunatley Crede will remain at 3B next season.  A viable minor League replacement is nonexistent and there remains other positions to upgrade.

If I recall, Crede hit well in the second half last year when the Sox were in 1st place. And in 2002, Crede had no say when he was called up. He put up good numbers when he played though.

 

Actually, there may be less "pressure" in april and May when a lot of players have slow starts, and there is plenty of time for a team to make up ground if they are trailing]

 

Hawk and DJ talked about this a while back. They said Joe's offseason workouts may have something to do with his poor starts and better finishes. He bulks up during the offseason, and as the season progresses, loses weight. They said this revelation may 'teach' Joe something about his offseason workouts. Makes sense. Players may build up strength at the expense of flexibility.

 

I can live with Crede at 3B. There seem to be few "cornerstone" guys the Sox could get for 3B anyway. Crede is one of the few young position players with the potential for the Sox to build around [Rowand and Uribe are the others]. I'd much rather the sox upgraded at SS or 2B [with Uribe at the other spot], C, OF, and pitching.

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Crede=headcase  trade him please, I bet there is a team out there that is willing to give us a new bat rack or maybe a bottle of pine tar for him. :huh

Remember those words. I've seen the same sentiments directed at Carlos Lee after 2002 .... and Paul Konerko and Aaron Rowand after 2003.

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Remember those words.  I've seen the same sentiments directed at Carlos Lee after 2002 .... and Paul Konerko and Aaron Rowand after 2003.

I haven't always been sold on Crede. Yet his upside is definitely worth waiting another year or two. I think he'll turn it around in '05.

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Your suggesting the Sox trade Rowand?  No way in hell. You simply don't trade cheap, young talent unless the other team is willing to overpay.  I'd rather sign Beltran and move Rowand to right.  Even with an incentive laden contract Maggs will be commanding a higher salary than Aaron. 

 

Honestly, I've come to accept Magglios departure from this team.  We simply can't risk paying him ANY amount.

Very true. The Sox will already be paying Thomas $8 million and he could easily have a season with 100-200 at bats due to yet another injury. Hard to argue that we should risk additional millions on another player with serious injury risk.

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Notes: Crede finishing strong

Schoeneweis activated, wants to pitch in final weekend

By Scott Merkin / MLB.com

 

KANSAS CITY -- When Joe Crede homered in the fifth inning Monday night at Comerica Park, it marked the second straight year that the White Sox third baseman reached 20 home runs in a single season.

Unfortunately for Crede, the first 20-homer season exists only in his mind.

 

"I did hit 20 last year," said Crede with a smile, after officially finishing with 19 long balls in 2003. "They just called one foul in Baltimore."

 

Crede was referring to an April 23 game at Camden Yards, where a three-run homer he launched clearly inside the line was ruled foul. But there was no doubt about Crede reaching that particular accomplishment in 2004, with his two home runs while facing the Tigers giving him 21.

 

It has been a tough season for Crede, offensively, in which he underachieved for the most part -- particularly in terms of his .238 average. The Jefferson City, Miss., native seems closer to finding his stroke over the past two weeks, entering Thursday's series opener with eight hits in his last 20 at-bats. Even with the season ending Sunday against the Royals, Crede can build on the late surge and increased knowledge for 2005.

 

"It's always important to finish strong," Crede said. "It's how you finish, not how you start. Everybody remembers what you've done lately.

 

"The 20 home runs is just kind of a number with the team out of contention. It doesn't mean as much as it would if we were [in contention]. It's a great number to reach, but it's something where you would rather be in the playoffs."

 

Aaron Rowand, one of Crede's closest friends on the team, sees Crede as a potential .300 hitter with 25-30 home runs in the immediate future. Hitting coach Greg Walker believes the current season has served a purpose for the powerful third baseman, helping him work through a few kinks to have his swing ready to go next Spring Training.

 

"Maybe it takes Joe Crede to have one more year like this to fix the small problems he fixed to turn into a good hitter," Walker said. "Next year, I really believe we will have this thing ironed out."

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Schoeneweis activated, wants to pitch in final weekend

If the Sox pitch Schoenstiff before the end of the season, then this means bad things for the Sox. The remainder of this season is like early Spring Training. They are pitching guys they want a look at for next season. The only reason to pitch Schoney is if you are considering having him on the roster next year. Paying him more than $1 million (again!) to suck would be another bad move by the Sox.

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