EvilJester99 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I am not cheering for anyone. The Sox didn't make it so baseball is over for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Its pretty easy to spend a lot of money when you have the biggest ballpark, with the highest attendance, with the 2nd highest ticket prices, in the biggest marketplace, with the biggest TV contracts, and the biggest merchandising revenues. Its kinda like being Microsoft and not understanding why Linnux can't afford to give a $50 billion divident to its shareholders. Agreed. The difference is, if George makes $20 million profit, and the team doesn't win the WS, he will invest at least $20 mill to improve the team, whereas if JR profits $20 million, that, in and of itself, is a successfull season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Its pretty easy to spend a lot of money when you have the biggest ballpark, with the highest attendance, with the 2nd highest ticket prices, in the biggest marketplace, with the biggest TV contracts, and the biggest merchandising revenues. Its kinda like being Microsoft and not understanding why Linnux can't afford to give a $50 billion divident to its shareholders. It really depends on how you view baseball or sports in general. If you take it as they are all independent businesses (coke vs. pepsi) then the Yankees are a prime example of capitalism and a free market at it's best. I view it as a travelling road show. That MLB is the independent company and the teams as divisions. The Yankees do not exist without the other MLB teams. They could not dominate the industry and drive out competitors. For that reason baseball is healthiest when all their companies are competeting on a fair and level playing field. For that reason I would like to see a hard cap with a min and a max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 It really depends on how you view baseball or sports in general. If you take it as they are all independent businesses (coke vs. pepsi) then the Yankees are a prime example of capitalism and a free market at it's best. I view it as a travelling road show. That MLB is the independent company and the teams as divisions. The Yankees do not exist without the other MLB teams. They could not dominate the industry and drive out competitors. For that reason baseball is healthiest when all their companies are competeting on a fair and level playing field. For that reason I would like to see a hard cap with a min and a max. The game as a whole would be much healthier if they would institute a few changes. 1. NFL style salary cap 2. Olympic style drug testing and punishements 3. World wide draft 4. NBA style salary slots for draftees right off the top of my head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I have different reasons for rooting for the Twins, Red Sox and Cardinals. Twins- I'd like the WS winner to come from the AL Central. Red Sox, my 2nd favorite team and I'd like to see that 'cursed teams, with old parks, pity us, support group fan base' relationship they have with Cubs be squashed. Cardinals-this one should be obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 May i ask why? Even after they were sold, they still have the stink of Disney about them. Rally Monkeys. That "Laissez-Faire" California sports fan attitude. They just won for God's sake. But, #1, The Twinks can suck my left nut for their attitude this year. #2 The Red Sawks fans' attitudes are enough to make me glad that the Yanks whomp on them. And, #3, the Evil Horde (Spanks) don't deserve ANOTHER championship while the Sox sit here in mediocrity. So the Angels it is. Angels vs Astros would be my choice for the WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 The game as a whole would be much healthier if they would institute a few changes. 1. NFL style salary cap 2. Olympic style drug testing and punishements 3. World wide draft 4. NBA style salary slots for draftees right off the top of my head... I agree with you 100%, but I would add the NBA cap as well. There should be a maximum salary cap AND a minimum salary cap. E.g. you can't spend over $100 million, but you have to have at least a $75 mill payroll. That would guarantee equity league wide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Boston...I'd like nothing more than to see the reaction of so many of my friends who are Yankee fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I agree with you 100%, but I would add the NBA cap as well. There should be a maximum salary cap AND a minimum salary cap. E.g. you can't spend over $100 million, but you have to have at least a $75 mill payroll. That would guarantee equity league wide! The NFL salary cap is exactly what you said. It is a narrow range that all teams have to fall in between for their total team salaries. And if I were commish, it would be the first thing I would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 The NFL salary cap is exactly what you said. It is a narrow range that all teams have to fall in between for their total team salaries. And if I were commish, it would be the first thing I would do. Then the MLB players union would strike again like 10 years ago and shut baseball down for a long time. Could you handle not having baseball for awhile? Like 3 or 4 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Then the MLB players union would strike again like 10 years ago and shut baseball down for a long time. Could you handle not having baseball for awhile? Like 3 or 4 years? I'm not saying it would ever happen. But it would be best for the long term health of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Honestly, if it would fix baseball. I would just about favor shutting the game down for a few years to break that union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 The problem lies with the fact that Baseball has been able to keep it's federal antitrust exemption. Someone needs to get the "balls" to overturn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearhater Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Dodgers for sure, I really really like the way they play ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bones Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Dodgers for sure, I really really like the way they play ball Yay, I'm not alone. I'm going with the team that everyone seems to be overlooking. That seemed to be the case with the Marlins last year and I'm thinking a Dodgers-Angels World Series would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 The game as a whole would be much healthier if they would institute a few changes. 1. NFL style salary cap 2. Olympic style drug testing and punishements 3. World wide draft 4. NBA style salary slots for draftees right off the top of my head... 1. Agreed 2. Olympic style? After every victory? I think players should be able to select someone on every team they want tested. Top three from every team get tested. Plus some random testing. 3. Interesting. Has some big issues to overcome, especially for the first year. Would you have "wasted" a pick on Takatsu in 2002 or 2003? 4. Nope. NBA rookies always make the roster, and usually play significant minutes. MLB draftees are crap shoots. I don't see enough similaraties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVVY18 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Voted Astro's because of their incredible run to get in there. But I wouldn't mind St. Louis either. Either one of the cubs rivals winning it would be great. Something else to rub into their faces. From the AL, Anaheim because I hate them the least of the other teams. :fyou Snack Cakes :fyou Boston and your patty cake games :fyou Yank-ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 1. Agreed 2. Olympic style? After every victory? I think players should be able to select someone on every team they want tested. Top three from every team get tested. Plus some random testing. 3. Interesting. Has some big issues to overcome, especially for the first year. Would you have "wasted" a pick on Takatsu in 2002 or 2003? 4. Nope. NBA rookies always make the roster, and usually play significant minutes. MLB draftees are crap shoots. I don't see enough similaraties. 2.My olympic style testing meant that all drugs are tested for, including all of the growth hormones, and there is a zero tolerance with huge long suspensions issued for violations. Players would forfeit all salary in the interm. 3. Whenever a forgein player wants to be considered for the MLB, he has to enter the draft. Period. It wouldn't be where you could just draft anyone, just players who declare. 4. This is a great idea for the simple fact that the worst teams can't draft the best players out there because they are asking for too much money, so those players fall to the bigger payroll teams, and the circle of crappiness continues. And actually your example of the rate of MLB draft pick failures should contribute to fiscal certianty in the draft, because it would keep the money risked on these uncertianties smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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