DBAHO Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Rumors flying thick and fast out of New York that Vasquez could be on the trading block. He's got 3 years left on a 4 year $45 million deal. Now the Yanks have holes at 2B or 3B if they move Jeter and A-Rod across, and pitching in general. I'd doubt we could do a straight deal with them, maybe Texas could be involved with Soriano heading back to New York. Of course this is all dependent on whether KW even wants another starter IF he doesn't sign one as a FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 While I wouldn't mind getting Vazquez, I doubt the Sox would want anything to do with his 9 Million dollar contract. Yanks would have to pick some of that up to make it viable. For that money though I would think Pavano would be a better choice. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 While I wouldn't mind getting Vazquez, I doubt the Sox would want anything to do with his 9 Million dollar contract. Yanks would have to pick some of that up to make it viable. For that money though I would think Pavano would be a better choice. IMO. I don't think Pavano will be headed our way. If the Yanks pick up Lieber's option, and sign a FA pitcher like Pavano, they might have to move Vasquez or Kevin Brown possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I would take Vazquez before Brown just due to health issues alone....Vazquez probably has that stage fright thing about being in NY. BTW is it Vasquez or Vazquez?? or wrong altogether? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 (edited) I would take Vazquez before Brown just due to health issues alone....Vazquez probably has that stage fright thing about being in NY. BTW is it Vasquez or Vazquez?? or wrong altogether? lol Pretty sure it's Vasquez. My bad, it is indeed Vazquez. :banghead Edited October 21, 2004 by DBAH0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I Vazquez, but who would we have that the Yankees would want? I don't think we would match up at all with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Do you think they'd want Borchard??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 After the emotions settle down, I don't think the yanks will trade him. They need pitching and he's a good pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I Vazquez, but who would we have that the Yankees would want? I don't think we would match up at all with them. I agree. A third party would have to be involved for Vasquez to come to the Southside. The first of the trade rumors surface only 8 HOURS after their defeat. I'll have to admit...I thought it would take at least a little longer than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Didn't we almost get this guy before but KW choose Bartolo Colon instead? I can't imagine why the Yankees would trade him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 If the Yanks want to move him, he'll be moved. But probably not to the sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 If the Yanks want to move him, he'll be moved. But probably not to the sox. He is good but i don't think he is nearly as good as the money he is making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Didn't we almost get this guy before but KW choose Bartolo Colon instead? I can't imagine why the Yankees would trade him though. No We had Colon the whole time. Colon made much more money then Vazquez did in 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 No We had Colon the whole time. Colon made much more money then Vazquez did in 2003. I would take colon over vasquez anyday. I am probally the only one who thinks that though. Even after this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Something is wrong with Vazquez. He's not the same Pitcher. Maybe he's hurt or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 What about a deal centered around Konerko? I have always been a big Vazquez fan, and I think he would be a great addition. His trade value is a little down due to a sub-par season. I think the Yankees would be interested in Konerko. Giambi's health and production are huge question marks(probably a DH at best), and the Yankees had to turn to Clark and Olerud in the 2nd half, so a potential 40 HR hitter has to interest Cashman(if he is still with the Yankees) and GS. Salary wise that are even, although Vazquez still has two years left after the 2005 season(if I am not mistaken), so the Yankees might have to eat a little of that(5-6M over the last 2 years). I think a trade of Konerko for Vazquez would be something the Sox could consider, although it doesn't give them much money to improve other weakness(maybe sign cheap options like Hollandsworth - RF, Vizquel - SS, and Zaun - C and see what happens with a much improved rotation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I'd take Vazquez in a f***ing heartbeat. Nasty stuff and is still young. He has top of the line stuff as well, incredible potential. Yea, I wouldn't mind him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I Vazquez, but who would we have that the Yankees would want? I don't think we would match up at all with them. Contreras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Maybe someone can help me here. I remember Vazquez making The Sox look absolutely silly the 2 times they faced him this year. Then again, I guess it is the whole pitchers they have never faced before situation. What happened to this guy down the stretch? His numbers were bad, but if it could be done I'd take a gamble on this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Just say no to Javy Vazquez. GO-AO ratio of 0.98, 0.78, and 0.80 in 02, 03, and 04 respectively. He'd get hammered in USCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I would take colon over vasquez anyday. I am probally the only one who thinks that though. Even after this year. No. You're not alone. In fact, I think I might take Brown + Cash over Vazquez for three years. As least Brown will be done after this year, and maybe he can get into Garland's head. After all, Jon Garland is the next Kevin Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I think building a team on pitching is a moot point unless we can move the damn fences back, which is what we should do anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Speaking of Giambi, I don't think the Yanks have given up on him for 2005. Or have they? If they think Giambi can come back, they have no interest in PK. If not, they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRKARNO Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Just say no to Javy Vazquez. GO-AO ratio of 0.98, 0.78, and 0.80 in 02, 03, and 04 respectively. He'd get hammered in USCF He seemed to have no problems in his one start at the Cell in 2004 (8 IP 1 ER). Olympic stadium had been playing as a hitters' park before this year so those numbers before 2004 are not just a result of the park he was pitching in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 He seemed to have no problems in his one start at the Cell in 2004 (8 IP 1 ER). Olympic stadium had been playing as a hitters' park before this year so those numbers before 2004 are not just a result of the park he was pitching in. That's one start. I'm using stats from over 3 full years. From what I can tell just by looking at his GO-AO ratio, he'd get hammered in USCF. A deep fly ball to LCF in Yankee Stadium or even Olympic Stadium could be 10 rows back in USCF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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