LosMediasBlancas Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 ... 2 random thoughts: Why use Pedro when they did? What do you think Nomar is thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 ... 2 random thoughts: Why use Pedro when they did? What do you think Nomar is thinking? 1. Cause he wanted to hear the crowd chanting "who's your daddy" 2. "I am the biggest idiot.. ever. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 1. Cause he wanted to hear the crowd chanting "who's your daddy" 2. "I am the biggest idiot.. ever. " 1. you must be right, cuz I see NO other reason 2. 2nd biggest is Maddux. They both left teams that end up making the post season and they get to watch them on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Pedro wanted to finish the game out and flip em all off. Guess THAT didn't work, huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Whoever signs pedro for four years 60 million is gonna get royally screwed and i'm gonna love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 1. my guess is that they brought it pedro to secure the lead. kind of like they used him in relief back in the 90's vs. the indians in the playoffs. but, that backfired last night, and Francona didnt want to risk any more chances, and took him out. but, why did Lowe even come out? he had a 1 hitter, and what, only 66 pitches? did he get hurt or something (i should add that i missed innings 2-7 because of my softball game). 2. nomars thinking...."i'm gay" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 but, why did Lowe even come out? he had a 1 hitter, and what, only 66 pitches? 69 pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 but, why did Lowe even come out? he had a 1 hitter, and what, only 66 pitches? did he get hurt or something (i should add that i missed innings 2-7 because of my softball game). They took Lowe out because he was pitching on 2 days rest, and there was no reason to let him stay in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 They took Lowe out because he was pitching on 2 days rest, and there was no reason to let him stay in. I understand that, but there was no reason whatsoever to put pedro in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Whoever signs pedro for four years 60 million is gonna get royally screwed and i'm gonna love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 Pedro wanted to finish the game out and flip em all off. Guess THAT didn't work, huh. Maybe you're right. The only way it would make sense to me is if it was, say game 3 and you wanted him to kinda get into a game with a nice lead against the Yanks to get the monkey off his back and maybe rebuild his confidence for game 6 or 7....but it was game 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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witesoxfan Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Not sure I really like that smilie. I am almost hoping the Yankees give him $20+ mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Make sure this thread gets saved Mike... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Make sure this thread gets saved Mike... Well as long as no one blows it up, it'll be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I understand that, but there was no reason whatsoever to put pedro in. Why not put Pedro in? The Sox bullpen was thin. They had used Arroyo two nights in a row, Foulke had thrown way too much including three innings the night before. Embree had not been all that effective. They needed to get three innings out of their bullpen. It was Pedro's day to throw (on the side). He is one of your best two pitchers. Why would you not think you could get an inning or two out of him to help get you closer to the end of the game?? Besides, after Pedro gave up the three hits, he settled down quite nicely and looked pretty damned good. Francona managed like he said he would, using all available resources. And he won. Let it rest...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 This implying the sox have interest? Because if they did sign him some how it would be the worst thing kw has done yet. Even worse than the ritchie trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Why not put Pedro in? The Sox bullpen was thin. They had used Arroyo two nights in a row, Foulke had thrown way too much including three innings the night before. Embree had not been all that effective. They needed to get three innings out of their bullpen. It was Pedro's day to throw (on the side). He is one of your best two pitchers. Why would you not think you could get an inning or two out of him to help get you closer to the end of the game?? Besides, after Pedro gave up the three hits, he settled down quite nicely and looked pretty damned good. Francona managed like he said he would, using all available resources. And he won. Let it rest...... You are telling me with a seven run lead leskanic could not pitch two innings? It would have ben 3 or four days since the last time he pitched. I don't about the red sox just think leskanic is good enough for the mop up role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 You are telling me with a seven run lead leskanic could not pitch two innings? It would have ben 3 or four days since the last time he pitched. I don't about the red sox just think leskanic is good enough for the mop up role. Obviously Francona felt more comfortable putting the best pitcher he had in that situation. He has been with that team every daysince February. I'm not questioning that. He did what he felt he had to do and won. Why does everyone have to feel like they are smarter than the guy in the dugout who deals with his team every day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 You are telling me with a seven run lead leskanic could not pitch two innings? It would have ben 3 or four days since the last time he pitched. I don't about the red sox just think leskanic is good enough for the mop up role. With Lescanic pitching the 7 run lead would have quickly become 4 or 3. Remember, over the regular season the Yankess had more comeback victories than any team in the majors. Why give New York an opportunity in such a crucial game? Mop up rolls don't exist in deciding games with divisional rivals when the ALC is at stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Obviously Francona felt more comfortable putting the best pitcher he had in that situation. He has been with that team every daysince February. I'm not questioning that. He did what he felt he had to do and won. Why does everyone have to feel like they are smarter than the guy in the dugout who deals with his team every day? From what i have read he is very bad with his bullpen, that is a reason to question him. Boston fans are not exactly thrilled wit his decisions. If they were they would not have a thread 109 pages long which equals out to 2174 posts long saying how bad of a manager he is and that he makes terrible decisions when it comes to the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 With Lescanic pitching the 7 run lead would have quickly become 4 or 3. Remember, over the regular season the Yankess had more comeback victories than any team in the majors. Why give New York an opportunity in such a crucial game? Mop up rolls don't exist in deciding games with divisional rivals. Couldn't have said it any better. You cannot give the Yankees any chance at all to get back in that game. You aren't thinking about tommorow, right now is all that matters. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 With Lescanic pitching the 7 run lead would have quickly become 4 or 3. Remember, over the regular season the Yankess had more comeback victories than any team in the majors. Why give New York an opportunity in such a crucial game? Mop up rolls don't exist in deciding games with divisional rivals when the ALC is at stake. He has pitched pretty well with boston, no reason for me to believe the yankees would have rocked him. If he gave up a couple runs then bring in pedro, but if it was not really needed he could have alittle extra rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 Good points, thx guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 These guys see what francona does daily and this is what they have to say about his decision. http://p086.ezboard.com/fsonsofsamhornbost...cID=14288.topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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