Brian Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Gammons said he spoke with Pedro's agent and he will be seeking a 3 year deal for $13 mil each. This is doable for the Sox, IMO. No reason they can't try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 The Red Sox will pay the 13, if that is infact what hes asking for, its the 15+ that scares the Red Sox away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 IMO, if they win the WS, they can afford him, and he'll stay with Boston regardless of the extra he's wantin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 3 years is in the JR range. I like it. I was afraid he was going to be looking for 4-5 years. I would love to see Pedro on the southside, but when the Red Sox win this, it is all but wrapped up that Pedro will retire in beantown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I would never (unless this is 5 years ago) pay $13 million dollars a year for Pedro. You could spend this money combined on J.D. and Glendon Rusch or any number of other combinations. At $13 million dollars, he is too much of an inconsistent headcase, we would be wise to spend the money elsewhere. Or even you could use this money for a combination of Derek Lowe and Glendon Rusch would make us better becasue, we not only would have both of them, but we could trade Garland to an NL team for some relief help, or to Baltimore or Texas for a prospect and cap room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 3 years is in the JR range. I like it. I was afraid he was going to be looking for 4-5 years. I would love to see Pedro on the southside, but when the Red Sox win this, it is all but wrapped up that Pedro will retire in beantown. Hit the nail right on the head. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I don't know if winning the WS would have any effect on Boston signing Pedro. They sold out every game this year. They can't sell anymore tickets than they do now. Pavano seems to want to go there. He'd be cheaper and possibly better than Pedro. I think the only thing that keeps him in Boston, is if Red Sox management is too worried he would become a Yankee. They also have 12 free agents, so the payroll will skyrocket anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Pedro in 3 years scares me. Who knows how long he can keep up the way he throws the ball. His velocity is already way down from what it was in 99 and 2000. 3 years is to big a risk IMO. Yeah, but they said that about him three years ago. Remember when Boston gave up on Clemens too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Yeah, but they said that about him three years ago. Remember when Boston gave up on Clemens too? Yeah, and his performance yesterday didn't hurt.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Yeah, and his performance yesterday didn't hurt.. And lets not forget he is only one year removed from posting a 2.22 ERA and prior to this year he hadn't had an ERA over 3 since 1996. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 he isn't worth $13 mil, far from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 he isn't worth $13 mil, far from it. How much a player is worth is relative to how much you can afford. Is Pedro worth $13 million to a team on a limited budget? Probably not. But he certainly is worth $13 million to a team like the Yankees or Red Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I am not convinced Pedro is worth $13 mil a year, especially if it is guaranteed for 3 yrs...... Not for a pitcher that cannot consistently go beyond 100 pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 How much a player is worth is relative to how much you can afford. Is Pedro worth $13 million to a team on a limited budget? Probably not. But he certainly is worth $13 million to a team like the Yankees or Red Sox. Is he worth $13 million if he takes us from Jason Grilli as our 5th starter to the playoffs? Take the 5th starters numbers and replace them with Pedro's, then tell me if he is worth $13 million to the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I find it funny that Sox fans can find a great deal of fault in dreamy (read:not going to happen) Randy Johnson or Pedro Martinez pickups. PLease no more Jason Grilli. If we take Pedro and Randy and still lose, then at least we lose with a guy whose jersey you want to ask for for Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I would never (unless this is 5 years ago) pay $13 million dollars a year for Pedro. You could spend this money combined on J.D. and Glendon Rusch or any number of other combinations. At $13 million dollars, he is too much of an inconsistent headcase, we would be wise to spend the money elsewhere. Or even you could use this money for a combination of Derek Lowe and Glendon Rusch would make us better becasue, we not only would have both of them, but we could trade Garland to an NL team for some relief help, or to Baltimore or Texas for a prospect and cap room. First of all, if these playoffs have proven anything it's that the Glendon Rusches of the world don't get it done when it counts. You need good starters, and you need lots of them. Second of all, cap room?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I don't know if winning the WS would have any effect on Boston signing Pedro. They sold out every game this year. They can't sell anymore tickets than they do now. Pavano seems to want to go there. He'd be cheaper and possibly better than Pedro. I think the only thing that keeps him in Boston, is if Red Sox management is too worried he would become a Yankee. They also have 12 free agents, so the payroll will skyrocket anyway. If Pavano is going to be cheaper and better than Pedro .... wouldn't we rather have Pavano? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 If Pavano is going to be cheaper and better than Pedro .... wouldn't we rather have Pavano? But it's definitely more likely we'd be gettin Pedro instead of Pavano. Pavano wants to stay in the NL and pitch in a pitcher friendly park. That puts us in an 0-2 count right off the bat. At least Pedro has pitched in the AL for the majority of his career and knows what to expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 But it's definitely more likely we'd be gettin Pedro instead of Pavano. Pavano wants to stay in the NL and pitch in a pitcher friendly park. That puts us in an 0-2 count right off the bat. At least Pedro has pitched in the AL for the majority of his career and knows what to expect. Marlins is his number one choice and the red sox are number two. So i take it as he would not mind to go to the a.l. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Marlins is his number one choice and the red sox are number two. So i take it as he would not mind to go to the a.l. He's only considering the Red Sox because that's where his family lives. I don't think he will sign anywhere else in the AL besides the Yanks or the Red Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 But it's definitely more likely we'd be gettin Pedro instead of Pavano. Pavano wants to stay in the NL and pitch in a pitcher friendly park. That puts us in an 0-2 count right off the bat. At least Pedro has pitched in the AL for the majority of his career and knows what to expect. Most talk along these lines is pure rumor and speculation and I give it not one iota of credence. Money talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Most talk along these lines is pure rumor and speculation and I give it not one iota of credence. Money talks. Money does talk but it's not the only factor a FA will take into consideration (unless your agent is Scot Bora$$). Derek Lowe is condiering going back to his home town in Detroit, but after tonight he'll probably stay with the Red Sox possibly depending on other moves. Frankly, I would stay away from Pavano. I know he had a great season, but it was in a pitcher friendly ballpark, and he hasn't really proven much in a career. He's going to get a big offer no doubt, and I think we could sign Odalis Perez for cheaper, and it would fit our needs better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 He's only considering the Red Sox because that's where his family lives. I don't think he will sign anywhere else in the AL besides the Yanks or the Red Sox. Yankees are not too high on his list. But like yasny said in the post below yours money talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Money does talk but it's not the only factor a FA will take into consideration (unless your agent is Scot Bora$$). Derek Lowe is condiering going back to his home town in Detroit, but after tonight he'll probably stay with the Red Sox possibly depending on other moves. Frankly, I would stay away from Pavano. I know he had a great season, but it was in a pitcher friendly ballpark, and he hasn't really proven much in a career. He's going to get a big offer no doubt, and I think we could sign Odalis Perez for cheaper, and it would fit our needs better. Derek Lowe's situation is a perfect example. The only thing I've seen in print about him going to Detroit was a Detroit writer speculating that he might consider playing for the Tigers because he is native to the area. Then that has gotten blown up to the point that it's either Boston or Detroit. I still don't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Derek Lowe's situation is a perfect example. The only thing I've seen in print about him going to Detroit was a Detroit speculating that he might consider playing for the Tigers because he is native to the area. Then that has gotten blown up to the point that it's either Boston or Detroit. I still don't buy it. I recall rotoworld saying something along the lines that it would be a smart idea for the tigers to go after him or they have alot of interest in lowe. But that is all i have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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