Rex Kickass Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Evan Bayh is a sell out pussy. Signed, A Former Hoosier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 FORGET all the too close to call analysis, Australian psephologist Malcolm Mackerras says the US election will be a Kerry-slide. psephology: the scientific study of elections I had to look that one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents, I'll try not to be this serious ever again : Kerry. After the 9/11 attacks, President Bush started off with a speech on the WTC ruins that was in its way more sublime than anything else I've heard from a president in my lifetime. Take away that one moment, however, and I find nothing to give me any confidence in the Bush administration. From the sunset clause in the tax bill used to make the costs appear smaller, to a massive expansion in spending (much of it discretionary nondefense spending) while promising fiscal responsibility, to the empty action on education, to the nonaction on free trade and immigration issues (on both of which I largely agree w/ the President's views), to the bravado shown in justifying the Iraq war when there were so many reasonable experts claiming the facts were wrong, to the insincerity of claiming that the President was actively supporting the assault weapons ban; I just don't trust the President. Kerry is not my ideal candidate, in fact I more or less dislike him. He obviously has problems. But in a comparison, I can't in good conscience stick with the Republicans. For example, Kerry's health plan will be more expensive than he acknowledges, but less expensive than Bush's private savings accounts. And at least Kerry is willing to provide a guess at costs, and enough detail to check the accuracy of that guess. I respect his candor on Social Security. Neither Bush nor Kerry has any real plan to fix SS, at least Kerry will say as much. The environment is at least under discussion in a Kerry presidency, even if largely in the wrong way (ethanol, eg). Bush's record has been awful and his administration has been intentionally misleading. He has said precious little on any concrete issue. I can't vote that type of administration a second term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 George W. Bush I thank you for your support....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I think you may be the first person I've ever seen that doesn't like Bayh... I met him when I was in HS. The impression he made on me will never go away. He is a pretentious asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I hope not :fyou Bayh signed not a member of the Evan Bayh fan club Can I join that club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 From the sunset clause in the tax bill used to make the costs appear smaller, Just a quick question: Why is a tax cut considered a "cost"????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Can I join that club? Absolutely... Plenty of room on the :fyou Bayh bandwagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Just a quick question: Why is a tax cut considered a "cost"????? B/c it costs the govt revenue. I think you're saying that it's a decrease in revenue, while only an increase in expenditure is a "cost" -- but they both affect the government's net position in the same way, so the terminology is not very important, and anyway it is a common expression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 B/c it costs the govt revenue. I think you're saying that it's a decrease in revenue, while only an increase in expenditure is a "cost" -- but they both affect the government's net position in the same way, so the terminology is not very important, and anyway it is a common expression. I know it's a common expression, but far too many people consider it an actual cost, but never look at a tax hike as a cost to me and you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I know it's a common expression, but far too many people consider it an actual cost, but never look at a tax hike as a cost to me and you. Okay, if I wasn't clear, I meant a cost to the US government. But that's something that you and I should take very seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Okay, if I wasn't clear, I meant a cost to the US government. But that's something that you and I should take very seriously. Oh, I do, trust me. I take very seriously. It's MY money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Bush. 4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS!! may I ask why you are so in favor of Bush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Oh no, I agree with his actual voting record (and the leftness of it). I don't agree with a lot of his issues, but at the same time I can honestly say he's so much better then John Kerry...which is all I'm saying. The only democratic I would of even considered voting for in this election was Lieberman and well he didn't get much support. I just don't agree with the policies and ideology of the democratic party. However, at least so far it seems as if Obama is sincere and actually sticks to his message. Kerry is saying so many things that completely contradict with his entire record and people are buying it. It absolutely kills me to watch Kerry's speaches. So many people complain so much about Bush, but I stick to my opinions, he's a pretty straight shooter, especially for a politician. Wasn't Ditka going to be the persona they were going to put on the ballot instead of Keyes, but he decided to hold out. I got a feeling next time around Ditka will be running for some sort of elected position in Illinois. Really? He doesn't have a lumber company? Anybody need wood? He does own part of that timber company. Check out factcheck.org and see how truthful this straight shooter is. Fact Check How can you be for In vitro Fertilization and not for Embryonic Stem Cell Research? How can you be for the Death Penalty but against Abortion? Those things are very contradictory to me, but those are Bush and Republican beliefs. Anyway, he, like most politicians, is a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Ditka found out he would have to drop all his endorsement deals to run and decided to run...away as fast as he could. He also found out he would have to make all of his income public. He didn't want to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 haha. Crappiest intimidators evar. There were 8 people standing right next to the "no pressuring past this point -kthx from champaign county commisioner" sign. They were all holding fliers, but I didn't see them talk to a single person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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