CanOfCorn Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 He worked his way up from no. 5 starter to no. 2 in the playoffs. granted the rest of the rotation imploded. But, might be worth it to send an offer...plus we have a lot of hispanic players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 He worked his way up from no. 5 starter to no. 2 in the playoffs. granted the rest of the rotation imploded. But, might be worth it to send an offer...plus we have a lot of hispanic players. We should have made an offer a couple years ago, but better late than never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 #1 f***ing FA target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?i...TC-DT9705204233 Link, for those that like verification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Wow, George Steinbrenner is on tilt. One bad beat and he does the stupidest thing he could do. He just lost the best pitcher on his staff. Good job dumbass. Also...get him now. You ink him to a 3-year $21 mill deal, and you have a damn good starter. Do this in a f***ing heart beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I'd have declined it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I'd have declined it too. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Wow, George Steinbrenner is on tilt. One bad beat and he does the stupidest thing he could do. He just lost the best pitcher on his staff. Good job dumbass. Also...get him now. You ink him to a 3-year $21 mill deal, and you have a damn good starter. Do this in a f***ing heart beat. I'd be a little worried to give him a long-term deal, even though he did prove his arm was healthy. Also I don't think he was their best pitcher. He's not a #1 or #2 starter anymore. What he is though is super consistent, a grinder, and a guy who you can count on every 5th day...Something this team has been lacking. I can't fathom Georgy boy finding a better replacement for $8M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I was shocked when I saw they declined his option after what he did in the playoffs. What is king George smoking these days. You dont decline an option on your best pitcher. Id take him in a heartbeat for the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Not when you're the Yankees and he would be your cheapest starter. He won 14 games for them while missing a month and a half. He was their best starter in the playoffs. You don't decline that option. Very dumb move by Steinbrenner and company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I'd be a little worried to give him a long-term deal, even though he did prove his arm was healthy. Also I don't think he was their best pitcher. He's not a #1 or #2 starter anymore. What he is though is super consistent, a grinder, and a guy who you can count on every 5th day...Something this team has been lacking. I can't fathom Georgy boy finding a better replacement for $8M. Best pitcher is pushing it to say the very least...I do agree with you(even though I just said what I said) Depending on how you look at Kevin Brown and El Duque, one could argue that he was the best starter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 GET HIM! What the hell are we waiting for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 GET HIM! What the hell are we waiting for... November 12th when you can sign FA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 2 years, 5 million per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 2 years, 5 million per. No way, he will be getting at least 6.5-7 a year. If he doesn't that will really shock me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 No way, he will be getting at least 6.5-7 a year. If he doesn't that will really shock me. I tend to agree with you. So if you're the Yankees, and intend on resigning him, why bother declining his option? to save $2M? This is the yankees we're talking about. I just don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I tend to agree with you. So if you're the Yankees, and intend on resigning him, why bother declining his option? to save $2M? This is the yankees we're talking about. I just don't get it. They did this with Roger Clemens a couple years ago too IIRC. Dunno remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I tend to agree with you. So if you're the Yankees, and intend on resigning him, why bother declining his option? to save $2M? This is the yankees we're talking about. I just don't get it. I think it may be so that they can lock him up a couple more years. Seems like they are gonna negotiate a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Id be very happy if the sox were to acquire lieber. I liked lieber a whole lot on the cubs and his approach to the game hasnt changed since his injury. He still is the same pitcher and he is one of the few guys that i wouldn't place him as "injury prone" even with his devestating injury. Lieber is super conisistant, something the club is lacking greatly mainly because he has pin point control, and his stuff doesnt change day to day(ala Garcia/Garland/Contreras). If we could get lieber under 7.5 million per, id be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I think 5 mill a year could work out, especially when you consider all the other names on the market ahead of him. The Sox could be well suited if they sneak in early in Free Agency and sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 apparently the yankees do want him back, but dont think he is worth 8 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 apparently the yankees do want him back, but dont think he is worth 8 mil I think so too but do u have a link or something to this information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I think so too but do u have a link or something to this information? .... it was a snippet from comcast sports nite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 As much as Lieber shut down the Red Sox this season, there's not a chance in hell I give him 8 million dollars for just that. He was a consistently average pitcher, not an ace worth eight million dollars. Thats ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 As much as Lieber shut down the Red Sox this season, there's not a chance in hell I give him 8 million dollars for just that. He was a consistently average pitcher, not an ace worth eight million dollars. Thats ridiculous. This is the Yankees we're talking about. They can afford to give Jason Giambi $10 mill this year, see him hit .230 and be out for the year with a tumor, and see no ill effects payroll wise. All they are doing by not picking up his option is running the risk that they can't come to an agreement and that some other team swoops in very early and gets him to a deal he's looking for. Odds are good that something will be worked out, but if negotiations break down at all, it could get ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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