Rex Hudler Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 I am speaking more specifically of current free agents or those that are still eligible to file this year. A complete list would be cool, but not necessary. If anyone can dig one up, I think all of us would appreciate it. What I do know is that he will have a lot of say in what free agents go where this offseason. I know Boras has the following seven free agents. I am sure there are others. Carlos Beltran Adrian Beltre Magglio Ordonez JD Drew Jason Varitek Derek Lowe Kevin Millwood If someone digs up the list, or if you want to merge this into the Free Agency Resource thread, feel free. Gracias in advance......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 you hit the main ones. Those are gonna be the people who slow the market down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Man oh man. Player i have most interest from that list is drew. He would absolutely rake the ball here. He will be had for anything between 8-12, most likely closer to 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Man oh man. Player i have most interest from that list is drew. He would absolutely rake the ball here. He will be had for anything between 8-12, most likely closer to 12. If he stayed healthy, he'd be a 40 homer, 1.000 OPS guy for us. That's still a pretty big if, even with him playing a full season last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 If he stayed healthy, he'd be a 40 homer, 1.000 OPS guy for us. That's still a pretty big if, even with him playing a full season last year. I know, but i can dream can't i? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 I know, but i can dream can't i? We all can See thread: Very crazy trade idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 We all can See thread: Very crazy trade idea LOL :fthecubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Those seven players could get contracts totaling $500,000,000. Half a Billion. At 4.00% commission, uh, where's my calculator? $20,000,000. Up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Is he still w/ A-Rod...or when did that split happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Boras got his $10MM up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 At 4.00% commission Umm, dont agents get 10%??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Is he still w/ A-Rod...or when did that split happen? He is still with A Rod i think but they are just listing the Free Agents that have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Umm, dont agents get 10%??? 4.00% is standard. A-Rod's contract was $250,000,000 and Agent Boras got $10MM up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 4.00% is standard. A-Rod's contract was $250,000,000 and Agent Boras got $10MM up front. Really you sure??? I am pretty sure they get 10% man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Is Kenny Rogers free again? I know he is a Borass guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 4.00% is standard. A-Rod's contract was $250,000,000 and Agent Boras got $10MM up front. According to Arn Tellum, 10% is the industry standard. He doesn't know anyone who gets less than 7%, and many get up to 12%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 8, 2004 Author Share Posted November 8, 2004 I don't want to sound like I am pro-Boras/agent here, but agents do a lot more than most think. They do much more than handle contract negotiations. Many agents handle some or all of the player's finances. They handle their taxes, or at least keep everything in order so an accountant can finish them, if the agent doesn't have an accountant on staff. Agents handle PR appearances for the player outside what is directly club-related. They secure endorsements, signing deals, etc, for the players to allow them additional income. They handle bat, shoe and glove contracts and make sure the player is in full supply. They also do all the research necessary to support their arguments during negotiations and/or arbitration hearings. There are probably a ton of other things too, that I am not aware of. If people have the impression that an agent simply negotiates with a club for a player by having a few meetings and signing a contract and that is it, then they are mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 As usual... correct Rex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Agents also do the following for their clients: Charge their cell phones Detail their cars on Sunday afternoons ( but ONLY if it's nice outside ) Call their Moms on Mother's Day Buy AND check their Lotto tickets Change the ink cartridge in their fax machines Scratch that hard-to-reach spot on their lower back Pick their kids up from school Chew their food for them and feed it to them like a baby bird ...and, of course, other LESS important tasks as necessary... So as you can see, a 10% commission is a pretty good bargain for the client! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 I don't want to sound like I am pro-Boras/agent here, but agents do a lot more than most think. They do much more than handle contract negotiations. Many agents handle some or all of the player's finances. They handle their taxes, or at least keep everything in order so an accountant can finish them, if the agent doesn't have an accountant on staff. Agents handle PR appearances for the player outside what is directly club-related. They secure endorsements, signing deals, etc, for the players to allow them additional income. They handle bat, shoe and glove contracts and make sure the player is in full supply. They also do all the research necessary to support their arguments during negotiations and/or arbitration hearings. There are probably a ton of other things too, that I am not aware of. If people have the impression that an agent simply negotiates with a club for a player by having a few meetings and signing a contract and that is it, then they are mistaken. Good post Rexy. I never realized how much work an agent did either, until I got some good first hand info. These guys literally live and breath their clients lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Agents also do the following for their clients: Charge their cell phones Detail their cars on Sunday afternoons ( but ONLY if it's nice outside ) Call their Moms on Mother's Day Buy AND check their Lotto tickets Change the ink cartridge in their fax machines Scratch that hard-to-reach spot on their lower back Pick their kids up from school Chew their food for them and feed it to them like a baby bird ...and, of course, other LESS important tasks as necessary... So as you can see, a 10% commission is a pretty good bargain for the client! Considering all the client does is order them around and sign on the dotted line.. I agree. Some clients are A1 Assholes.. some aren't. Most are. And Critic.. you would not believe how many of those silly things you list above that agents really do. One player I know quite well has his agent rent his hotel rooms in his home city and buy his condoms for his extra-marital flings... the really sick part.. the agents wife and the clients wife are best friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 One player I know quite well has his agent rent his hotel rooms in his home city and buy his condoms for his extra-marital flings... the really sick part.. the agents wife and the clients wife are best friends. :puke Anything for the all mighty dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Considering all the client does is order them around and sign on the dotted line.. I agree. Some clients are A1 Assholes.. some aren't. Most are. And Critic.. you would not believe how many of those silly things you list above that agents really do. One player I know quite well has his agent rent his hotel rooms in his home city and buy his condoms for his extra-marital flings... the really sick part.. the agents wife and the clients wife are best friends. Wow, that's truly awful. And the agent's wife can't really say anything either, without endangering her marriage and the agent's career, if she even knows about it - that stinks. ...I was HOPING I was kidding about those chores... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Wow, that's truly awful. And the agent's wife can't really say anything either, without endangering her marriage and the agent's career, if she even knows about it - that stinks. ...I was HOPING I was kidding about those chores... You would not believe some of the stuff they do.. and even moreso who they do it for.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 8, 2004 Author Share Posted November 8, 2004 Considering all the client does is order them around and sign on the dotted line.. I agree. Some clients are A1 Assholes.. some aren't. Most are. And Critic.. you would not believe how many of those silly things you list above that agents really do. One player I know quite well has his agent rent his hotel rooms in his home city and buy his condoms for his extra-marital flings... the really sick part.. the agents wife and the clients wife are best friends. That's funny............ I was just about to post that I originally left out things like secure the hookers, lie to the wife, etc. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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