DBAHO Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Well I can't blame the Tiggies for not being persistent. The Tigers hade made offers to free agents J.D. Drew, Derek Lowe and Corey Koskie. It's believed the offer to Drew is worth $36 million over four years. It will probably take a five-year, $50 million contract to sign him. Dec. 12 - 4:37 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'd really hate to trade Brandon McCarthy right now. I think, based on his high K rate and his high K/BB rate, that he has the potential to be a #1 starter of the Mike Mussina with the Orioles mold. Clearly not worth a year of Hudson. There's no question, however, that B-Mac's HR rate scares the bejeezus out of me. Home runs kill the value of a pitcher, and US Cellular ain't the place to pitch if people are centering the ball. Next year at AA Birmingham will be a HUGE test for McCarthy. If he can continue his K/9 and K/BB performance and keep his home run totals down, I think that we've got ourselves a #1 starter. Not worth a year of Hudson at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'd really hate to trade Brandon McCarthy right now. I think, based on his high K rate and his high K/BB rate, that he has the potential to be a #1 starter of the Mike Mussina with the Orioles mold. Clearly not worth a year of Hudson. There's no question, however, that B-Mac's HR rate scares the bejeezus out of me. Home runs kill the value of a pitcher, and US Cellular ain't the place to pitch if people are centering the ball. Next year at AA Birmingham will be a HUGE test for McCarthy. If he can continue his K/9 and K/BB performance and keep his home run totals down, I think that we've got ourselves a #1 starter. Not worth a year of Hudson at all. If that one year of Hudson ends with a silver and black pile of celebrating ballplayers at US Cellular Field, then it's worth it. Lovely thought ain't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I agree. The guy is a beast. Burnett would be a good option for our rotation. I remember seeing him on TV when he pitched against us, he was nasty. Pls get him...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 If that one year of Hudson ends with a silver and black pile of celebrating ballplayers at US Cellular Field, then it's worth it. Lovely thought ain't it? No question, but I currently calculate that: Probability of 2005 pile of celebrating Sox players (with Hudson) Hudson going to the top of the rotation would put the Sox as favorites for the AL Central. But we'd still be a longshot to go to the World Series given the relative strength of other team's lineups in the AL. (Actually, the more I think about it, the Hudson-Buehrle-Garcia-Contreras-Garland rotation looks amazingly strong). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox89 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 any new rumos for the sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credepopsup Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Is the Hudson to LA deal done? I've had a "troll" around other boards, and A's fans say it's completed. LA certainly did well if it's true. Billy - What were you thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Is the Hudson to LA deal done? I've had a "troll" around other boards, and A's fans say it's completed. LA certainly did well if it's true. Billy - What were you thinking? For what it's worth the ESPN Radio update has said nothing about the trade.... only MLB thing was Pavano to the Yankees for 4 years at 39m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 To be honest I don't think you'll find many outside of this very board who would take B-Mac over Edwin Jackson. Nothing against Mac but Edwin is supposed to be a stud. Next, you won't find a more electrifying arm than aj. I anticipate a full year of health from him. Javy would be pretty good in florida with their spacious set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 To be honest I don't think you'll find many outside of this very board who would take B-Mac over Edwin Jackson. Nothing against Mac but Edwin is supposed to be a stud. Next, you won't find a more electrifying arm than aj. I anticipate a full year of health from him. Javy would be pretty good in florida with their spacious set-up. People like Jackson with "great" arms but arm troubles coming up tend to be injury plagued their whole careers...look at Jaret Wright - six years of goshawful performance after coming up with Jackson hype. I don't make that trade if I'm Beane. Jackson is a huge risk, even if he's closer to the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'd really hate to trade Brandon McCarthy right now. I think, based on his high K rate and his high K/BB rate, that he has the potential to be a #1 starter of the Mike Mussina with the Orioles mold. Clearly not worth a year of Hudson. There's no question, however, that B-Mac's HR rate scares the bejeezus out of me. Home runs kill the value of a pitcher, and US Cellular ain't the place to pitch if people are centering the ball. Next year at AA Birmingham will be a HUGE test for McCarthy. If he can continue his K/9 and K/BB performance and keep his home run totals down, I think that we've got ourselves a #1 starter. Not worth a year of Hudson at all. Bmac is the one prospect I'd really like to hang on to, however if you can use him to get Huddy I'd pack Brandon's bags for him. Our rotation would be absolutely nasty and if then we were able to get to the playoffs and throw huddy, buehrle and freddy out there we'd have a great shot at winning the whole damn thing, jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Does Beane making this trade have anything to do with DePotesta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'd offer up Bmac, Harris, and Anderson. Jason, get off the drugs. There is NO way a GM would or should make such a trade unless they KNOW they can re-sign Hudson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 i think i speak for more people then just myself... but proper grammer isnt the first thing on your mind when you are typing at about 60+ WPM on a blog of a msg board about a baseball team... this isnt a physics thesis or anything like that proper grammer or grammar? Guess spelling isn't important either, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'd really hate to trade Brandon McCarthy right now. I think, based on his high K rate and his high K/BB rate, that he has the potential to be a #1 starter of the Mike Mussina with the Orioles mold. Clearly not worth a year of Hudson. There's no question, however, that B-Mac's HR rate scares the bejeezus out of me. Home runs kill the value of a pitcher, and US Cellular ain't the place to pitch if people are centering the ball. Next year at AA Birmingham will be a HUGE test for McCarthy. If he can continue his K/9 and K/BB performance and keep his home run totals down, I think that we've got ourselves a #1 starter. Not worth a year of Hudson at all. His HR rate will stay low if he pitches in Birmingham, but that could be deceiving. HR's aren't all that bad if there is no one on base when they are hit. Low walk totals can help a pitcher overcome giving up a few extra dingers. We'll see if that is how it plays out for Brandon..... or is it Adam?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I wouldnt be surprised in Hudsons case, that the team acquiring him wanted a sign and trade? That could be done, correct? It could be done but Beane isn't giving any team the window to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagar69 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 another deal that is "supossedly" close to happening: vazquez + cash for burnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 another deal that is "supossedly" close to happening: vazquez + cash for burnett Would this make it more likely or less likely for the Yankees to get Johnson?? I cantake it as they want to keep Burnett because he's young and damn good or they can spin Aj as part of a Rj deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagar69 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Would this make it more likely or less likely for the Yankees to get Johnson?? I cantake it as they want to keep Burnett because he's young and damn good or they can spin Aj as part of a Rj deal. i would assume that it would make it MORE likeyl that they would trade burnett for RJ. burnett makes less money so the dbacks would be more likely to want him. i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 These two I'd hang on to: McCarthy and Sweeney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagar69 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 These two I'd hang on to: McCarthy and Sweeney. if we can get hudson and sign him to an extension, id trade Bmac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox89 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 i could see KW hearing that Vazquez for Burnett is close and i can see him running to cashman making a solid offer to get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I don't know, I could see the Yanks keeping Burnett and being damm happy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 The Giants are going after Mike Matheny because A.J. Pierzynski is asking for too much in a multiyear deal. GM Brian Sabean has no interest in going to arbitration with Pierzynski. A modest two- or three-year deal is more to the Giants' liking. If Pierzynski continues to ask for too much, he'll be traded or non-tendered. Dec. 12 - 2:25 pm et Source: San Francisco Chronicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Royce Clayton's one-year deal with the Diamondbacks is expected to be worth $1.35 million. An option for 2006 may be included. The deal will become official after the shortstop takes a physical. Dec. 12 - 1:49 pm et Source: East Valley Tribune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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