WilliamTell Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I'll be really happy if Radke and Koskie don't sign. Not that it sounds like it's happening, but the Sox signing Radke would be a slap in the face to Minnesota, I'd laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I'll be really happy if Radke and Koskie don't sign. Not that it sounds like it's happening, but the Sox signing Radke would be a slap in the face to Minnesota, I'd laugh. Losing Radke will kill that pitching staff. They had 4th and 5th starter problems as is last year, if Radke leaves Minnesota they are in huge trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Levine was talking to Kotex Boy and said the Sox are talking a 3 way for Randy Johnson to go to the Yankmees and the Sox get Vazquez...said KW has wanted Vazquez since Oct. Plus he said the Sox are primed to sign Wright as well....Take it for what its worth due to it coming from Bruuuuucccceeeeee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Levine was talking to Kotex Boy and said the Sox are talking a 3 way for Randy Johnson to go to the Yankmees and the Sox get Vazquez...said KW has wanted Vazquez since Oct. Plus he said the Sox are primed to sign Wright as well....Take it for what its worth due to it coming from Bruuuuucccceeeeee. A rotation of MB, Garcia, Vazquez, Wright, and Contreras (SP?) would be OK with me!!! (This is assuming that Garland would probably be traded in a three way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Levine was talking to Kotex Boy and said the Sox are talking a 3 way for Randy Johnson to go to the Yankmees and the Sox get Vazquez...said KW has wanted Vazquez since Oct. Plus he said the Sox are primed to sign Wright as well....Take it for what its worth due to it coming from Bruuuuucccceeeeee. That's the deal some of us have been theorizing for months now. I would be thrilled if we added Vazquez and Wright, while subtracting Garland and Konerko. Moneywise it only adds about 6 million in payroll, which leaves up flexibility in the pen, 1B, SS, or the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 That's the deal some of us have been theorizing for months now. I would be thrilled if we added Vazquez and Wright, while subtracting Garland and Konerko. Moneywise it only adds about 6 million in payroll, which leaves up flexibility in the pen, 1B, SS, or the OF. I wouldn't be suprised if it opened more payroll, since I bet the Yankees will be eating some of Vazquez's contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I wouldn't be suprised if it opened more payroll, since I bet the Yankees will be eating some of Vazquez's contract And you are very probably right. If KW could get Vazquez and Wright for the same price as Garland and Konerko (which is feasible if the Yankees kick in cash) I would be thrilled to death, as it would leave up at least $10 millionish to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Levine was talking to Kotex Boy and said the Sox are talking a 3 way for Randy Johnson to go to the Yankmees and the Sox get Vazquez...said KW has wanted Vazquez since Oct. Plus he said the Sox are primed to sign Wright as well....Take it for what its worth due to it coming from Bruuuuucccceeeeee. So reading between the lines the Sox would be dealing one of their starters in the Vazquez deal. Unless Wright is the plan B and Konerko would be a part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Levine made it sound more like Garland would be part of the deal to Ari. I am sure he will talk about it tonight on talkin baseball or hot stove whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 We may get Vazquez and Wright for the same price as PK and JG, but we are signing Wright as a FA. We better get more than Vazquez for PK and JG in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 We may get Vazquez and Wright for the same price as PK and JG, but we are signing Wright as a FA. We better get more than Vazquez for PK and JG in a trade. I agree, however LOTS of cash could even things out. For example if the Yanks sent like 15 mill over to the Sox. Or since the Dbacks are picking up Troy Glaus, it means one of Hilly or Chad Tracy is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I wouldn't doubt Garland could be traded but only after getting a SP like Wright first. If he was moved as part of an AZ deal, then getting another SP like Vazquez makes sense. I don't think Garland will be part of the 2005 sox. No way would Jon have gotten a $1.1 mill raise in arb. So settling early should mean the sox wanted his salary set for teams interested in him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I wouldn't doubt Garland could be traded but only after getting a SP like Wright first. If he was moved as part of an AZ deal, then getting another SP like Vazquez makes sense. I don't think Garland will be part of the 2005 sox. No way would Jon have gotten a $1.1 mill raise in arb. So settling early should mean the sox wanted his salary set for teams interested in him Its too bad cause he's better then Contreras, doesn't have a long term contract, and costs less money. Yet the Sox are gonna give up Jonny boy :fyou Not that I have a problem trading Garland, I can't stand Contreras making the money he is. But who knows, maybe this time next year I'll be talking about what a bargain Jose is. I sure as hell hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Its too bad cause he's better then Contreras, doesn't have a long term contract, and costs less money. Yet the Sox are gonna give up Jonny boy :fyou Not that I have a problem trading Garland, I can't stand Contreras making the money he is. But who knows, maybe this time next year I'll be talking about what a bargain Jose is. I sure as hell hope so. Contreras hasn't worn out his welcome. yet. At least he's been mentioned as a possible closer [and has the nasty stuff for it] if he can't fails in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Garland wasn't on Arizona's list of pitchers they wanted the Yankees to trade for and send on to AZ, if I remember correctly. Take that for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 The other thing I wonder is if the deal could get done with just Konerko and a prospect going to AZ, with the Sox keeping Garland, while signing Wright. Then they could try their original idea and try Contreras as a closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Garland wasn't on Arizona's list of pitchers they wanted the Yankees to trade for and send on to AZ, if I remember correctly. Take that for what it's worth. The Yanks may of countered with a lower package saying, get us Garland and Konerko and we'll call it a deal. Who knows, things could change, especially with the Sox backing out of the RJ sweepstakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Its too bad cause he's better then Contreras, doesn't have a long term contract, and costs less money. Yet the Sox are gonna give up Jonny boy :fyou Not that I have a problem trading Garland, I can't stand Contreras making the money he is. But who knows, maybe this time next year I'll be talking about what a bargain Jose is. I sure as hell hope so. Looking at the free agent market this year, it doesn't look like Contreras will be that bad at the price. He just needs to speed up his delivery. (See his last game against the Royals.) Could you imagine if we didn't trade for Garcia or Contreras? Our rotation would be Buehrle, Garland,and Grilli, so we would have to try and sign THREE free agent pitchers with this beast of a market. But I forgot, we would still have Reed and Olivo! :rolly :rolly :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I was surfing through some Yankee boards trying to see if anyone their heard anything on their radio. Caught on interesting thing. Some radio station out in New York was reporting that the Yankees acquired Felix Rodriguez to make way for Tom Gordon to go to Arizona along with Vazquez, 12 mill in cash, Hasley and two minor leaguers. But the posters were squalking whether it was true or not. They also said the Yanks were close to signing Milton and that some in the org are making a push to sign Wright instead of Lieber (isn't Lieber pretty much signed now???). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 The other thing I wonder is if the deal could get done with just Konerko and a prospect going to AZ, with the Sox keeping Garland, while signing Wright. Then they could try their original idea and try Contreras as a closer. You could be onto something their. The only thing is would Konerko alone be enough because the Dbacks have long said they have a big time need for pitching. And with them about to sign Troy Glaus (rumor) it would really make you wonder if Konerko would be heading their. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Looking at the free agent market this year, it doesn't look like Contreras will be that bad at the price. He just needs to speed up his delivery. (See his last game against the Royals.) Could you imagine if we didn't trade for Garcia or Contreras? Our rotation would be Buehrle, Garland,and Grilli, so we would have to try and sign THREE free agent pitchers with this beast of a market. But I forgot, we would still have Reed and Olivo! :rolly :rolly :rolly No doubt. The Benson deal alone makes a lot of SP's seem like bargains I'm sure KW did look at the what the Sox 2005 rotation would look like when he made the 2 deals [esp. Contreras w/ Loaiza not coming back, but also getting Garcia locked up for a few years]. It's hard enough getting 1 FA SP signed for a reasonable price let alone 2. Maybe KW isn't as dumb as some people think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I was surfing through some Yankee boards trying to see if anyone their heard anything on their radio. Caught on interesting thing. Some radio station out in New York was reporting that the Yankees acquired Felix Rodriguez to make way for Tom Gordon to go to Arizona along with Vazquez, 12 mill in cash, Hasley and two minor leaguers. But the posters were squalking whether it was true or not. They also said the Yanks were close to signing Milton and that some in the org are making a push to sign Wright instead of Lieber (isn't Lieber pretty much signed now???). Yep. The NY papers are speculate Milton will sign today or tomorrow. Leiber is not signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 You could be onto something their. The only thing is would Konerko alone be enough because the Dbacks have long said they have a big time need for pitching. And with them about to sign Troy Glaus (rumor) it would really make you wonder if Konerko would be heading their. Good point. But then again, trading Johnson free up enough salary to almost pay PK and Glaus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Good point. But then again, trading Johnson free up enough salary to almost pay PK and Glaus. Which makes both Chad Tracy and Shea Hillebrand available. I know one thing, I'd do a Konerko/Garland for Tracy/Vazquez and 12-16 mill in cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Is there any way we can get Gordon with Vazquez? Maybe if the Yankees don't give us as much money for Vazquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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