Gene Honda Civic Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I was actually refering to if CLee went somewhere as part of a trade but you'd still need to make a case for him being better than Everett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 yeah.. i suppose... but there must be some team desperate for a jurassic of their very own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 What Jones are you reffering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 What Jones are you reffering to? Jacque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Jacque Jones is way, way better than Carl Everett. Jones is much better defensively than Everett (who isnt?), has better power than Everett, and is also a hell of a lot less injury prone than Carl is. However, Jones is not a good fit in the AL central with all the good lefty pitchers in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Despite ESPN.com's Jayson Stark's report, the Cubs have no intention of turning Kerry Wood into a closer. Cubs GM Jim Hendry knows what a waste that would be and confirmed that he's never discussed that option with anyone. If the season started tomorrow, Ryan Dempster likely would be the Cubs' closer. Fortunately, there's still a few months left for the team to figure out a better solution. Dec. 13 - 12:01 am et Dodgers GM Paul DePodesta said he's out of the chase for Corey Koskie, indicating that he intends to wait and see what happens with Adrian Beltre. DePodesta said he should know whether a Beltre deal will be possible within a couple weeks, adding an offer hasn't been made but will be shortly. Dec. 13 - 12:12 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Gammons on Sportscenter -Kevin Cash to Tampa Bay for Chad Gaudin (RP) -Cashman talked with both Beltran and Milton -White Sox seem out of Edgar/Cabrera sweepstakes He said it was basicly a meeting of all talk and no action. I have to agree with the dipship on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I forgot to mention that when Big Petey was on ESPNEWS the other host asked him if the Yanks were still going to sign Milton after getting Pavano, and he thinks so. He also talked about how they would look into moving Brown to Atlanta. Moose Vazquez Pavano Wright Milton That doesn't look too scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I forgot to mention that when Big Petey was on ESPNEWS the other host asked him if the Yanks were still going to sign Milton after getting Pavano, and he thinks so. He also talked about how they would look into moving Brown to Atlanta. Moose Vazquez Pavano Wright Milton That doesn't look too scary. Atlanta hav said they don't want Brown, so it's San Diego or nothing most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Atlanta hav said they don't want Brown, so it's San Diego or nothing most likely. Agreed. They are stuck with Brown. Try as the might, unless they are willing to dish out a lot of scratch to cover is nasty contract, he'll be in Pinstripes this season. I anticipate... Moose Pavano Brown Wright Milton Let's pray its not... Randy Johnson Moose Pavano Vazquez Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I honestly wouldnt be shocked to see the Cubs try and work out a trade of Sosa for Kevin Brown, and then would make Brown their closer. Just a pure guess though on my part, no source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Agreed. They are stuck with Brown. Try as the might, unless they are willing to dish out a lot of scratch to cover is nasty contract, he'll be in Pinstripes this season. I anticipate... Moose Pavano Brown Wright Milton Let's pray its not... Randy Johnson Moose Pavano Vazquez Brown So how exactly does Vazquez end up in the Yankees rotation after he is traded for RJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I honestly wouldnt be shocked to see the Cubs try and work out a trade of Sosa for Kevin Brown, and then would make Brown their closer. Just a pure guess though on my part, no source. I would. After the entire Jason Giambi/Gary Sheffield Balco fiasco, I seriously doubt Steinbrenner would trade for Sosa. Although Sam-me has yet to be implicated in any steroid allegations, there's no telling what may occur during his two year stinct with the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Mike Matheny and the Giants have agreed to terms on a three-year, $9 million contract. Ugly. The 34-year-old Matheny is declining defensively and he's never been any good offensively. Even if A.J. Pierzynski was no longer an option, the Giants probably would have been better off starting Yorvit Torrealba than paying Matheny $3 million per year. Dec. 13 - 1:19 am et :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Gotta feel sorry for Torrealba, he really deserves to be the starter over there. What is it with Brian Sabean and old verteran players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I would. After the entire Jason Giambi/Gary Sheffield Balco fiasco, I seriously doubt Steinbrenner would trade for Sosa. Although Sam-me has yet to be implicated in any steroid allegations, there's no telling what may occur during his two year stinct with the Yankees. yeah I agree... there were reports that Yankees would go even harder after Beltran because of the embarassement with Giambi, so I don't see them bringing in Sammy, espeically since he wouldn't fit in that clubhouse with his me first attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 With the Yanks signing Pavano, they'll go after hard after Beltran now. They need a better defense to help keep their pitchers' ERA down to respectable levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 So how exactly does Vazquez end up in the Yankees rotation after he is traded for RJ? Ya got me dorf. I can't sneek anything Johnson-related past you (insert witty comment here). Zing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Ya got me dorf. I can't sneek anything Johnson-related past you (insert witty comment here). Zing! I guess you can say I can't enough Johnson or Big Units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Is there any validity to a rumored trade between the Sox and Brewers where the Brewers get CLee and the Sox get Podsednik(possible Ginter)? Has anyone heard a similar rumor or seen an article about it? Personally, I think it could be a very good trade for the Sox(assuming Ginter is included). Podsednik's numbers were down last year, but I think he will rebound. His speed at the top of the order would also be a pleasant addition(he also plays solid D). Ginter would also be a nice addition. Ginter would be a perfect guy to platoon with Harris, and give Uribe and Crede an occasional day off. He has shown the ability to be a high .700/low .800 OPS guy, and has really excelled against lefties with a 3 year OPS of .868(in 178 AB). He also plays some pretty solid defense. Finally, this trade would free up some money. It should give the Sox enough money to sign a starter like OPerez or Clement, and maybe add another bullpen arm like Alverez(or acquire AJ to catch). I question the motive behind the Brewers though. They aren't one power hitter away from contending, and they add considerable payroll for a minor upgrade to the team in general. Furthermore, CLee could be a FA this next offseason as well. I would do that trade if I were the Sox. Giving you potentially the following lineup: CF Podsednik 2B Harris/Ginter DH Thomas/Everett(until Thomas is healthy) 1B Konerko LF Rowand RF Dye SS Uribe 3B Crede C Davis/Burke(wouldn't mind AJ) RH Garcia LH Buehrle LH/RH OPerez/Clement RH Contreras RH Garland RH Takatsu LH Marte RH Politte RH Hermanson LH Alverez battle for the last spot between Cotts, Adkins, Diaz, Munoz, Grilli, ect OF Everett 1B Gload IF Ginter C Burke OF Escobar? That would be a pretty solid team, and would probably keep the payroll under the 75M mark. I guess we will have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Corey Koskie is a physical away from getting a three-year, $17 million contract from the Blue Jays. Probably one year too long, but what else is new? Unless the Jays can dump his contract on another team, Eric Hinske will be moved to first base to make room for Koskie. Dec. 13 - 2:21 am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Talks with the Giants haven't gone well, so the Brewers are now discussing Scott Podsednik with the White Sox. The teams might be discussing trading Podsenik and Keith Ginter for Carlos Lee. The Brewers have room in their budget and they could use a power-hitting outfielder. We don't think the White Sox should be trading for Podsednik when they have a superior center fielder in Aaron Rowand, but they like the idea of adding a leadoff hitter. Dec. 13 - 3:42 am et I do not like that trade one bit. The Brewers can get Marlon Byrd from the Phillies for reliever Jeff Bennett if they trade Scott Podsednik. Sounds good to us. We still think Byrd has a brighter future than Podsednik. Dec. 13 - 3:39 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 The Angels are on the verge of signing Esteban Yan to a two-year contract for about $3 million. One year of a 3.83 ERA and that 2003 mark of 6.35 is completely forgotten. Dec. 13 - 5:16 am et According to the New York Daily News, the Mets rejected a trade that would have netted them Manny Ramirez for Cliff Floyd. The deal would have cost the Mets an additional $64 million over the next four years. It's unclear whether we've heard the last of this. Dec. 13 - 5:19 am et They are gonna try to deal manny every year until that contract ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 From the Cubune; For instance, the White Sox are interested in Los Angeles second baseman Alex Cora, brother of third-base coach Joey Cora, if the Dodgers can't trade him and decide not to offer him a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Coach Lovie Smith did not sound optimistic about Brian Urlacher's hamstring after yesterday's game. Urlacher's injury-plagued season started on the first day of training camp. It's probably over now, but we'll wait for official word. To add insult to injury, Urlacher will be named the most overrated player in the NFL by the Sporting News. Dec. 13 - 10:43 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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