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QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 12:41 PM)
If he can run.  He may lead the league in long singles.

 

I doubt the Tigers would blow all that money if they weren't convinced he couldn't run. A lot of people on this board are convinced that Magglio won't be able to play anymore, but Detroit's offer, and I'm sure they have seen medical reports, if not examined him themselves, something which no one on this board can claim, would indicate otherwise. If he is healthy, he is a better player than anyone on the White Sox roster which would make his signing with Detroit, a division rival sting.

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I doubt the Tigers would blow all that money if they weren't convinced he couldn't run. A lot of people on this board are convinced that Magglio won't be able to play anymore, but Detroit's offer, and I'm sure they have seen medical reports, if not examined him themselves, something which no one on this board can claim, would indicate otherwise. If he is healthy, he is a better player than anyone on the White Sox roster which would make his signing with Detroit, a division rival sting.

And paying him all that money would further strap Detroit so they can't sign any decent starting pitchers. Remember, it's their rotation that sucks. Their lineup was fine last year.

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QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 01:19 PM)
And paying him all that money would further strap Detroit so they can't sign any decent starting pitchers.  Remember, it's their rotation that sucks.  Their lineup was fine last year.

 

I agree, I think their rotation sucks, but there are many around baseball who think their rotation is decent right now and can be very good.

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QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 02:16 PM)
And who would that be?  The Detroit Tigers' management? :D

 

There's no question about it.  Their rotation sucks, period.

 

Their rotation has the most potential in the division and one of the top 3 in the AL.

 

Maroth and Bonderman have electric stuff...all they need is time.

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QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 02:19 PM)
Their rotation has the most potential in the division and one of the top 3 in the AL. 

 

Maroth and Bonderman have electric stuff...all they need is time.

 

Ledezma definitely has better ''stuff'' than maroth.

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THANK YOU. :notworthy

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 07:04 PM)
I doubt the Tigers would blow all that money if they weren't convinced he couldn't run. A lot of people on this board are convinced that Magglio won't be able to play anymore, but Detroit's offer, and I'm sure they have seen medical reports, if not examined him themselves, something which no one on this board can claim, would indicate otherwise. If he is healthy, he is a better player than anyone on the White Sox roster which would make his signing with Detroit, a division rival sting.

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Even if they have seen medical reports Maggs hasn't swung a bat since June. It would be extremely foolish of the Tigs to sign hm to a 70/5 deal that was guaranteed. I am sure there are clauses based on ab's per year that drastically change the value of the contract. That would be the smart thing to do if you are trying to assume a risk other's are not in order to lock him up.

 

Personally I wouldn't do it. Or I would like it to a successful ST for him.

Boras has refused repeated work outs since Dec. He refused most medical report requests until just this month. It's safe to say Maggs has has little to no baseball activity for the past 8 months. Knee injuries are the hardest to come back from. They usually mean more down time for yrs to come.

Thomas has been lucky in that respect. There's no guarantee Maggs will come back at play at an all-star level.

 

I liken this situation to Gonzo. All the talent in the world, but when he got hurt he was never the same again. His back continued to bother him & kept him sidelined most of the time.

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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 04:00 PM)
Even if they have seen medical reports Maggs hasn't swung a bat since June. It would be extremely foolish of the Tigs to sign hm to a 70/5 deal that was guaranteed.  I am sure there are clauses based on ab's per year that drastically change the value of the contract.  That would be the smart thing to do if you are trying to assume a risk other's are not in order to lock him up.

 

Personally I wouldn't do it.  Or I would like it to a successful ST for him.

Boras has refused repeated work outs since Dec.  He refused most medical report requests until just this month.  It's safe to say Maggs has has little to no baseball activity for the past 8 months.  Knee injuries are the hardest to come back from.  They usually mean more down time for yrs to come.

Thomas has been lucky in that respect. There's no guarantee Maggs will come back at play at an all-star level.

 

I liken this situation to Gonzo.  All the talent in the world, but when he got hurt he was never the same again.  His back continued to bother him & kept him sidelined most of the time.

 

I really don't think Magg's extra couple months vacation will harm his skills if he knee is sound. He may take a little longer to get the rust out, but he will have all of spring training to do that. Guys come back from knee injuries all the time now. Running backs in the NFL are playing after surgeries for torn ACLs. That didn't happen 10 years ago. Magglio's injury is unique. I've never heard of a professional athlete with it, that's why I'm so surprised many "experts" here seem to know that he'll be a shell of himself when he takes the field again. I believe the Gonzo you speak of is Juan Gonzalez, a great talent, but a big head case, and a bad back. Backs are the most mysterious injuries. If you have ever done something to your back you would definitely know. If I had to choose between a knee or back injury to come back from, I would choose the knee. Boras is a jackass, but if this Detroit stuff is true, you really have to hand it to him. It was just assumed he would sign a one year incentive laiden contract.

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I really don't think Magg's extra couple months vacation will harm his skills if he knee is sound. He may take a little longer to get the rust out, but he will have all of spring training to do that. Guys come back from knee injuries all the time now. Running backs in the NFL are playing after surgeries for torn ACLs. That didn't happen  10 years ago. Magglio's injury is unique. I've never heard of a professional athlete with it, that's why I'm so surprised many "experts" here seem to know that he'll be a shell of himself when he takes the field again. I believe the Gonzo you speak of is Juan Gonzalez, a great talent, but a big head case, and a bad back. Backs are the most mysterious injuries. If you have ever done something to your back you would definitely know. If I had to choose between a knee or back injury to come back from, I would choose the knee. Boras is a jackass, but if this Detroit stuff is true, you really have to hand it to him. It was just assumed he would sign a one year incentive laiden contract.

I thought he was talking about Luis Gonzalez. :huh

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Yankees signed outfielder Colin Porter to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training. Porter, 29, appeared in the majors with the Astros and Cardinals the last two years, hitting .254/.265/.313 in 67 AB. He wouldn't really be any worse of a bench option than someone like Timo Perez, but he'll spend another year in Triple-A this season. Jan. 28 - 5:12 pm et

 

:o

 

Twins signed outfielder Armando Rios to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training. Rios, who didn't play in the majors last season, hit .294/.370/.508 in 38 games in Puerto Rico this winter. He could have a slim chance of beating out Michael Restovich or Eric Munson for a bench spot. Jan. 28 - 4:39 pm et
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http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...ort=MLB&id=6451

Latest News  Jan. 28, 2005 - 7:32 pm et

 

Devil Rays agreed to terms with shortstop Julio Lugo on a one-year, $3.35 million contract.

Lugo, who made $1.75 million last season, asked for $3.8 million and was offered $3.1 million in arbitration. The 29-year-old will be eligible for free agency after 2006.

http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...ort=MLB&id=6599

Latest News  Jan. 28, 2005 - 7:34 pm et

 

Devil Rays agreed to terms with catcher Toby Hall on a one-year, $1.95 million contract.

Hall, who was eligible for arbitration for the first time, asked for $2.25 million and was offered $1.7 million. The trade talk surrounding him has died down, so it's likely he'll spend at least the first half of the year as Tampa Bay's starting catcher.

I'm betting that Lugo will be moved by the trading deadline this season. $3.35 million is alot of money when your team's payroll is only $30 million.

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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 07:22 PM)
Sosa to B'more for Jerry Hairston and 4 minor Leaguers is big rumor floating around the net right now. 

 

Bruce Levine says many details still need to be ironed out.

 

Do general managers understand how to negotiate?

 

You shouldn't have to offer Hendry, Hairston/4 prospects unless these 4 prospects all are comparable to career minor leaguers. If Orioles are trading any valuable prospects (ideally their highly regarded pitchers) a large amount of Sosa's contract should be eaten by the Tribune.

 

It irritates me to watch other clubs humor the Cubs with Sosa discussions. Baltimore doesn't need offense, dammit; they need to develop pitching. No need to "steal headlines" or create the "offseason splash" if it involves this dope.

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QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 07:50 PM)
Also important to note subtracting Sosa would push the Tribune into the bidding for Ordonez. :puke

I could see the Cubs trading some of these prospects to the Twins for Jacque "Strap" Jones, who'll go on to kill the Sox for years to come. :chair

 

On Comcast sports Net tonight, one of the Cubune writers said the Cubs will not offer Maggs anything more than a 2 year deal, and it has to have and "out" clause for them.

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