beck72 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Brady Clark is still playing?! As a regular?! I could see him as a bench guy. but any team giving him 500 ab's will be fighting to stay out of last place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Another catcher making a move possibly; The Rockies are considering attempting to trade for Robby Hammock, who was designated for assignment by the Diamondbacks. It appears very unlikely that Hammock will make it to waivers. There's a good chance that he'll be traded within the next few days. Jan. 31 - 4:51 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I'll just kind of dump a post here & comment on all the rumors. 1) Santana rejecting a 25/3 yr deal. Big news for Sox. He's going to cost the Twins a min of 6.8M in 05 & probably 10M in 06. Do they trade him now? There would be plenty of teams lining up to get Santana. The lowest price would be a #1 + prospects. I say he won't be a Twin in 05. 2) Sosa deal. Are the Mets listening? Sosa + 12.5M to O's for Hairston, prospects. Sosa has agreed to work out a 2-yr extension w the O's to considerably reduce his 18M 06 cost. So the O's might get Sosa's services for 3 yrs for an avg cost < 10M. The Cub get a solid bench player who can play OF, & 2B plus some pawns. That's a real good deal for the O's. 3) BorASS is full of s***. He keeps spreading this rumor that the Tigs are offering 70/5 but that's no where near true. The Tigs have offered 44/4. Slightly more than they did Pudge. If you're wondering why the Tigs it's because they've been down this road before with Pudge. All most people heard in that signing was 40/4. What they didn't hear was the multitude of protections in the contract against Pudge's suspect knees. That's the same approach they are taking with Maggs. If either player goes down they owe less than 1/2 the value of that year. I too am surprised at the Cub when it comes to both these signings. There is no reason why the Cub can not outbid the Tigs & craft the same protections. Are they really so cheap as to where they aren't willing to spend the 3-4M a yr on these guys if they go down? As much as I hate the Cub, I can only imagine how strong that team would be with both Pudge & Maggs. Thank God it won't happen. 4) As it stands now, if the Cub lose out on Burnitz they are likely to trade with the Mets for Floyd. It that eventually happens w/out the Mets having to take Sosa then Manaya should be GM of the off-season. 5) Why would the LAD want Crede (26) when they have Nakumaru & Valentin slated for 3B? He's young. It's no surprise that Crede is a BorASS player. That drastically reduces any hope the Sox have of signing him long-term. As a 5 yr player he's close to being a UFA. So he's basically a rent a player. Weaver (28) is due $9.25 million in 2005 then an RFA. I believe he too is a BorASS player. The difference is that Weaver is on the far short end of the stick when it comes to a new contract. Yet is he an upgrade over Contreras or Garland? Weaver: v R: 1098ab, .259 .300 .376 .676 v L: 1175ab, .289 .351 .456 .807 Garland: v. R:986ab, .246 .305 .417 .722 v. L: 1294ab, .275 .351 .449 .800 Contreras: v R: 405ab, .240 .332 .432 .764 v L: 509ab, .238 .325 .381 .706 I don't see it. The 676 v RH is impressive but not when it comes w a higher avg, & nearly the same OBP as Garland. He's nearly identical to Garland vs LH. Obviously the guy with the most potential is Contreras. Those numbers suggest that few are getting good hits vs him but they are drawing free-passes. You would have to believe that with a more stable situation & maybe a hard-nosed catcher like AJP his walks are going to drop in 05. This trade only makes sense for the Sox if they are both getting cash to offset Weaver's pay increase & another trade is in the works to spin off Garland or Contreras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) 1) Santana rejecting a 25/3 yr deal. Big news for Sox. He's going to cost the Twins a min of 6.8M in 05 & probably 10M in 06. Do they trade him now? There would be plenty of teams lining up to get Santana. The lowest price would be a #1 + prospects. I say he won't be a Twin in 05. He is getting five million is 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Mariners signed RHP Jeff Nelson to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training. Nelson should be able to claim a setup role with a good spring. Even at age 38, his slider makes him very tough on righties. Jan. 31 - 3:37 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Jeff Nelson news... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, HE GAWN... "Nelson clears air, ready to return Reliever about to embark on third tour of duty in Seattle" http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb...s_mlb&fext=.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) Yep, HE GAWN... "Nelson clears air, ready to return Reliever about to embark on third tour of duty in Seattle" http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb...s_mlb&fext=.jsp ...and there he goes. A minor league contract gets it done. Best of luck to Nelson. I hope he gets back on track with the M's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:47 PM) ...and there he goes. A minor league contract gets it done. Best of luck to Nelson. I hope he gets back on track with the M's. Good riddance, I'd rather have John Adkins in my bullpen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 05:30 PM) Good riddance, I'd rather have John Adkins in my bullpen! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Even Jon Adkins had a better year than Nelson last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 05:30 PM) Good riddance, I'd rather have John Adkins in my bullpen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 He is getting five million is 2005. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're assuming he will lose in arbitration. I disagree. 6.8M for a 20 game winner is reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 According to Newsday, the Rockies have offered Preston Wilson to the Mets for Mike Cameron. We still don't see how this works for the Mets. Both players have $12 million left on their contracts, but Cameron is signed for the extra year. With all the questions surrounding his knee, it just isn't a very good bet that Wilson will be an upgrade in 2005. Feb. 1 - 5:11 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Running the rumor mil: Today's St Paul Pioneer Press backed Rios denial of purchasing steroids & the Twins having ever offered a 25/3 deal. Interestingly enough this comes on the heels of two columns written in the Miami Herald talking about Santana's fondness for the Marlins. In fact if you compared what he's said about the Twins of late to that of what he's said about the Marlins you would think he was a Marlin Your J Hendry now, so what do you do? Burnitz at 4-5M for 1 yr or Ordonez at 30M/2yr? That's the thinking now. BorASS is reluctant to have Maggs sign a Tiger deal worth betw 55-75M/5yr. The latest offer. Perhaps it's because of the protection clauses that could drop it down to less than 25M/5yr. So apparently if the Cub offer Maggs a 30M/2yr with an out clause after 1 yr BorASS will accept. The 06 FA crop is expected to be the weakest in recent years & with a monster year at Wrigley Maggs could set himself up to be the biggest FA bat in 06. Anybody see a pattern here? BorASS' decisions seem to be more about maximizing his commission at an increase risk to his clients than finding the best deal for his clients. The Wrigley deal is a far bigger risk to Maggs than the Tigger one. BorASS is just playing his hand. If Maggs gets hurt than the Tigs deal is about equal to the Wrigley one in value. So BorASS commission is the same in that scenario. If Maggs remains healthy BorASS expects him to sign a much better deal than the Tigs are offering. The only scenario where BorASS loses is if Maggs remains healthy but drops down to average Finally doesn't it make you sick how the Sosa affair as gone? He skips out on fan appreciation day, never apologizes to his teammates or the fans, & now he's the latest attraction in the AL. As soon as word hit he was all but on O, O's road tickets start selling big. Selig should have made that trade contingent on Sosa apologizing to the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 cbssportsline has the details of Sosa's contract: When it's all said & done, the Cub will have paid 62.5M of the 72M Sosa was due over the 4 yr deal. The O's are on the hook for 9.5M. $5M in '05 & a 4.5M buyout in '06. The O's have an 18M opt in '06 & a 19M one in '07. The moral of this story is that players rarely ever live up to expectations in these lengthy deals. At best Sosa's production was worth about 1/2 that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I'm glad Santana would rather be a Marlin. I hope that along with others ruin team chemistry, somehow I doubt it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Excuse me while I fall off my chair in laughter... According to TSN's Ken Rosenthal, the Cubs will announce the signing of Jeromy Burnitz once the Sammy Sosa deal is finalized. It'll be a one-year, $5 million contract with a mutual option for 2006 that could make the deal worth as much as $11.5 million. Burnitz shouldn't have much trouble hitting 30 homers while playing half his games in Wrigley Field, but he's not going to be a big asset for the Cubs in right field. This makes the Sammy Sosa trade a net loss for a team that already hadn't had a great winter. Feb. 1 - 7:45 pm et Source: FOXSports.com //Green Jim Hendry! Five million to a guy who probably won't even post an .800+ OPS. They definitely aren't going to be paying Burnitz five million to sit on the bench, so it could be safe to say that Magglio Ordonez will not be a Chicago Cub... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) Excuse me while I fall off my chair in laughter... //Green Jim Hendry! Five million to a guy who probably won't even post an .800+ OPS. They definitely aren't going to be paying Burnitz five million to sit on the bench, so it could be safe to say that Magglio Ordonez will not be a Chicago Cub... YES!!!!!!!!!! Burnitz!!!! YE-HA!!! Eat it Cubdumb faithful! Eat it. Horrible signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 03:15 AM) YES!!!!!!!!!! Burnitz!!!! YE-HA!!! Eat it Cubdumb faithful! Eat it. Horrible signing. Just because I have such an urge to say it... Dye >>>>>>>>>>>>> Burnitz. There, now I feel good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 5 mill for Burnitz, holy heck. The Sox got Dye for less than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 01:56 PM) Excuse me while I fall off my chair in laughter... //Green Jim Hendry! Five million to a guy who probably won't even post an .800+ OPS. They definitely aren't going to be paying Burnitz five million to sit on the bench, so it could be safe to say that Magglio Ordonez will not be a Chicago Cub... I'm going to love reading Kotex Boy's next opinion article on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) Excuse me while I fall off my chair in laughter... //Green Jim Hendry! Five million to a guy who probably won't even post an .800+ OPS. They definitely aren't going to be paying Burnitz five million to sit on the bench, so it could be safe to say that Magglio Ordonez will not be a Chicago Cub... I f***in love it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISK72GOAT Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Did anyone hear the interview on mlb.com. Cubs reporter Carrie Muskat announced they were not going after Jeromy Burnitz. She/he? even said quote "Burnitz is a left-handed sosa". Cubs Report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 The Pirates are expected to pursue an outfielder in trade talks after failing to Jeromy Burnitz. It'd certainly be interesting to see the Pirates get someone who might contribute beyond 2005. Among the players they could look at are Aubrey Huff, Austin Kearns and Eric Byrnes. Byrnes would come the cheapest of the three. Feb. 2 - 3:15 am et The Mets are holding internal discussions over whether to pursue Magglio Ordonez. It appears that little progress has been made between the Tigers and agent Scott Boras over the past few days, so the door is open if any teams want to jump into the bidding. The Mets will definitely want to see Ordonez work out before they consider making an offer. Feb. 2 - 3:36 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...ort=MLB&id=7177 Latest News Feb. 2, 2005 - 3:41 am et Diamondbacks general partner Ken Kendrick said the team is close to picking up a center fielder. ''We will complete a transaction,'' Kendrick said. ''We feel confident we're going to bring in a new center fielder to complete the team.'' A trade for Eric Byrnes is probably the best bet. The Diamondbacks have also discussed deals for Mike Cameron, Preston Wilson and Jay Payton. Source: Arizona Republic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 03:18 AM) http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...ort=MLB&id=7177 With the Dback series of moves, I would say that Wilson is prolly the one that actually ends up there.... I don't know the salaries off-hand, but I would say that he's the highest of the bunch. And that's what AZ seems to value above all else right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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