ChWRoCk2 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) They're going to hold on to Sheets unless they get completely overwhelmed in a trade. yeah they have a nice young team and there really is no reason to trade him unless they are overwhelmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 The Yankees are considering signing free agent Ramiro Mendoza to a minor league contract. Mendoza must really want to return to New York if he's willing to sign with a team that already has seven relievers guaranteed bullpen spots. The idea is that he'd begin the year on a rehab assignment as he recovers from minor offseason shoulder surgery. Feb. 4 - 3:42 am et This is just stupid. Royals manager Tony Pena is now saying Zack Greinke definitely won't be his Opening Day starter. Pena left open the possibility back in December, but he's not considering it now, even though Greinke was the team's 2004 Pitcher of the Year and easily their best bet for 2005. ''I don't want to put that kind of pressure on him,'' Pena said. ''I wouldn't do that to him.'' He is 20 years old and in the major leagues. I have a feeling he may know how to handle pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) but I don't think we should rule out the possibility of Maggs playing LF for them. It looks like the Tigs are getting stood up again. Jim Hendry said they are satisfied with their new OF of Burnitz, Patterson, Hollandsworth, Hairiston, and Dubois. He said Boras is asking for too much money and too lengthy of a contract. I CAN however see the Mets going after Magglio. With their new tv deal they want all the big names they can get. However don't count Detroit out just yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Jim Hendry said they are satisfied with their new OF of Burnitz, Patterson, Hollandsworth, Hairiston, and Dubois. He said Boras is asking for too much money and too lengthy of a contract. I CAN however see the Mets going after Magglio. With their new tv deal they want all the big names they can get. However don't count Detroit out just yet... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree, Detroit or the Mets. The media specifically asked Hendry about Ordonez at the Sosa trade press conference. Hendry said he'd inquired but it wasn't a match in terms of $$ or contract length. I could see there being a very slim possibility if the Mets backed out, because it's getting fairly obvious that Ordonez (Boras) is holding out for something other than Detroit. Just a guess on my part but I don't think Ordonez is thrilled with the prospect of playing 5 years in Detroit. Again, assumption on my part but New York would be much more attractive to him. And I think Boras will extract an offer from the Mets very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) I agree, Detroit or the Mets. The media specifically asked Hendry about Ordonez at the Sosa trade press conference. Hendry said he'd inquired but it wasn't a match in terms of $$ or contract length. I could see there being a very slim possibility if the Mets backed out, because it's getting fairly obvious that Ordonez (Boras) is holding out for something other than Detroit. Just a guess on my part but I don't think Ordonez is thrilled with the prospect of playing 5 years in Detroit. Again, assumption on my part but New York would be much more attractive to him. And I think Boras will extract an offer from the Mets very soon. Basically I think it's up to the Mets now. If they want him, they'll come up with a good enough offer, and Maggs will sign on the dotted line. They'll need to find a taker for Cameron (Arizona, Seattle) or Cliff Floyd first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I can't believe BorASS is still trying to get a 90M/7 deal out of the Tigs. Illich needs to be patient here. The asking price is way to high & more potential bidders are dropping out. I think it's better the Tigs & the Rangers right now. If the Mets & Cub aren't even bothering to show up for his workout then what does that say for Maggs worth right now? The Tigs should reconsider even their 70M/5 offer. At this point Maggs is looking like a Nomar situation. A bargain price at a high health risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...ort=MLB&id=4709 Latest News Feb. 5, 2005 - 5:02 am et The Devil Rays are close to signing Denny Neagle to a minor league contract. Used to be kind of famous? Check. Cheap? Check. OK, let's make him a Devil Ray. Neagle won't have as good of a chance of winning a rotation spot as Hideo Nomo, but he will enter the mix. Source: St. Petersburg Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...ort=MLB&id=5889 Latest News Feb. 5, 2005 - 5:08 am et According to Newsday, the Tigers are close to signing Magglio Ordonez to a five-year, $75 million contract. Gulp. If the report is true, the good news is that the deal is voidable if Ordonez spends a certain amount of time on the DL with a left knee injury. Still, $15 million per year through age 35? For a player who has never led the league in a major category (sac flies in 2000!) and has been helped by his home park throughout his career? That's just too much money. Source: Newsday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 So much for Illich doing the smart thing and waiting for Maggs' price to go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Det. must be counting on Maggs to "get his revenge" on the sox, enough to justify his salary. At least this shows the Det. organization is run by fools, and won't sniff 1st place for a decade. With KC in decline, only the twins, sox and Cleveland will be competitive for the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) So much for Illich doing the smart thing and waiting for Maggs' price to go down. I get a feeling the $75 million is important to Maggs and Boras. Sox were offering $70m, now they can say they got more money for leaving the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerB's Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Has anyone heard the rumors about the Sox trading Harris, Cotts, and Borchard for the Orioles BJ Ryan? My buddy came into my weekly poker game last night saying he heard it on ESPN Radio 1000. He may have misheard it, but it is an interesting possibility for the sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) Has anyone heard the rumors about the Sox trading Harris, Cotts, and Borchard for the Orioles BJ Ryan? My buddy came into my weekly poker game last night saying he heard it on ESPN Radio 100. He may have misheard it, but it is an interesting possibility for the sox. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. Damn that's a s***ty trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 I haven't heard that... but I like BJ Ryan. I would be okay with that deal because it opens up spots for other people and adds another great arm to the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Has anyone heard the rumors about the Sox trading Harris, Cotts, and Borchard for the Orioles BJ Ryan? My buddy came into my weekly poker game last night saying he heard it on ESPN Radio 1000. He may have misheard it, but it is an interesting possibility for the sox. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wouldnt mind that trade if we can also get Gomez from Balt. That would give us an utility guy that can play every IF possition, along with a 2nd domonent lefty in the bullpen. But if it is those 3 just for BJ, I would still do that trade, but if KW can get Gomez as well, this would be one of the best offseasons in a long time. (if it isnt already.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) No. Damn that's a s***ty trade. For who??? I'd do that trade in a second. Borchard's nothing, Willie is definitely expendable, the only would I would miss is Neal but getting another stud like Ryan would give us perhaps the two best lefty relievers in the al along with steve kline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 The more I think of it... This is a horrible rumor... The O's would never ever do that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 02:06 PM) The more I think of it... This is a horrible rumor... The O's would never ever do that deal. Yup agreed, the only person usable for them is Neal, they have a 2b and plenty of outfielders there would be no room for willie or borch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 02:05 PM) For who??? I'd do that trade in a second. Borchard's nothing, Willie is definitely expendable, the only would I would miss is Neal but getting another stud like Ryan would give us perhaps the two best lefty relievers in the al along with steve kline. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Isn't BJ going to be a free agent after this year? (this year will be his sixth year in the majors) What the f*** is the point in giving up 3 guys that we control for at least another 3 years for a bullpen arm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) Isn't BJ going to be a free agent after this year? (this year will be his sixth year in the majors) What the f*** is the point in giving up 3 guys that we control for at least another 3 years for a bullpen arm? Because besides Neal the others aren't very useful at this point, Borch isn't going to be on the team and willie while a nice back up plan is expendable imo. BJ is obviously one of the better relievers out there and we're trying to win this year, I'd do that trade in a heart beat. Our bullpen would become even more shutdown but as mentioned before this is all moot cause this trade would make 0 sense for bmore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 07:14 PM) Because besides Neal the others aren't very useful at this point, Borch isn't going to be on the team and willie while a nice back up plan is expendable imo. BJ is obviously one of the better relievers out there and we're trying to win this year, I'd do that trade in a heart beat. Our bullpen would become even more shutdown but as mentioned before this is all moot cause this trade would make 0 sense for bmore. I would definitely welcome his 2.28 ERA here. Our bullpen will be solid L&R. But dont think Orioles will want Harris back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I would definitely welcome his 2.28 ERA here. Our bullpen will be solid L&R. But dont think Orioles will want Harris back. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agree on this. KW seems almost obsessed, in a good way, about building the strongest and deepest bullpen possible. I did not hear any of this on ESPN 1000 but I would not be shocked at all if KW is looking to beef up the left side of the pen. Marte is excellent and Cotts has potential and did well for the most part, but if a guy like Ryan is available, you do it. But yes, no way do I see Baltimore needing Harris back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 A person with ties to the Astros told Newsday that Rogers Clemens has an arrangement with owner Drayton McLane whereby he could request a trade to the Yankees should the Astros fall far out of the race. Well, of course he can request a trade. Maybe he'll even be granted one. Clemens can control where he'd go since he has a no-trade clause. The Yankees would be a likely destination since he still wants that Hummer he's owed, and Boston can't be completely ruled out. Of course, the Astros won't have any intention of parting with him if they're in contention, and after what happened last year, they're not going to give up on the season easily. Feb. 6 - 3:54 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 6, 2005 Author Share Posted February 6, 2005 Of course that means he'd welcome a trade to the White Sox, who thought he was washed up in 97. Well, shouldn't say they did...Schu did. It would be cool-ass s*** to get him though. A rotation of Rocket-MB-Duque-Garcia in the playoffs? /dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 A.J. Burnett indicated that he might be willing to take a three-year, $21 million contract from the Marlins to forego free agency, but the team offered only $16 million over three years. ''Hopefully, when I start off 9-0, they'll bring me another contract,'' he said. Burnett will likely get $10 million per year as a free agent should he make it through this season healthy. He remains a big injury risk, of course, but we'd certainly take him over Eric Milton or Jaret Wright for the next three years. Feb. 6 - 4:54 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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