AddisonStSox Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Please stay away from him Kenny, Please! This would be money down the drain. Prioritize Kendall. Fill the rotation. Get some bullpen help. Not signing Vizquel was a blessing in disguise, please don't blow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Please stay away from him Kenny, Please! This would be money down the drain. Prioritize Kendall. Fill the rotation. Get some bullpen help. Not signing Vizquel was a blessing in disguise, please don't blow it. I agree! If Guzman's market totally drops I would be OK with him coming here, but wouldn't be thrilled for the 5m a year. Not signing Vizquel, at least giving him 3 years, was a blessing, let's hope KW can realize this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 We would be so much better off signing a 2b, and moving Uribe to SS. However, stupid KW and his sidekick Ozzie are too blind to realize that Willie Harris should not be starting in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The Sox do need a SS. Yet getting an OBP is their biggest need on offense. That's why getting Jason Kendall [or another top leadoff guy] is more important than filling this spot. I have to agree, getting a # 1 hitter who can get on base is the biggest need next to a SP guzman is a bad choice, let spend the cash and go after Renteria .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Actually I think he's well worth the 5 Mil. Solid defense and he still has potential. Where is this potential you see? I see a guy that has played in 840 games in his career and has 3277 career at bats. If he hasn't reached his potential by now, then he never will. I don't care that he's young...he's a major league veteran, and he will not improve very much, if at all. If the Sox give Guzman $5 mill a year, they are making the biggest mistake of the offseason. Plus at least he has a reason to keep playing at a high level instead of Vizquel who would of went right back to past 3 years form of being lazy and inconsistant. Yeah except that he doesn't have a World Series ring yet, so there goes that argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Nov 16 The Associated Press reports free-agent SS Cristian Guzman (Twins) is close to signing with an undisclosed team, believed to be the Chicago White Sox. Where do you find AP reports at online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confederate_48 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Where do you find AP reports at online? I went to the Yahoo Fantasy site and went to one of my leagues to look up Guzmans stats from last year and they had some new information on him and that was included with it. Couldnt tell ya where you get all the official AP stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Actually I think he's well worth the 5 Mil. Solid defense and he still has potential. Plus at least he has a reason to keep playing at a high level instead of Vizquel who would of went right back to past 3 years form of being lazy and inconsistant. Vizquel lazy? I find it hilarious that you want Guzman for tha tmoney, but didn't want to pick up Vizquel at all? Sorry, but that just shows your lack of knowledge. Vizquel is anything BUT lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 So explain why his only good year in the last 4 was his contract year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 So explain why his only good year in the last 4 was his contract year... Actually 2002 was a pretty solid year. 2003 he was hurt and played less than half a season. 2001 was indeed a bad year. If he was lazy and so inconsistent, why are Cleveland fans so sad to see him go? Omar has a top notch reputation for being a hard worker, a positive influence on a club and one that will work with and help younger players. He handles the bat very well, makes contact and still plays excellent defense. That is why the Sox wanted him and why the Giants outbid them for him. If you want to look at numbers and make judgements on a player's character, then go right ahead. But that just shows how little you know about the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Whew...that was close. I don't understand why everyone hates this guy so much. is it that he was a minny player and your jealous? Personally, he's not my first choice to be on the Sox, but Visquel is gone. I think Guzman is best on turf, but it won't be that big of a difference. Granted his OBP is just plane terrible, but uribe's isn't anything great either. he's a nice fielder. He can steal some bases, and I just feel he could be a good player on the Southside. I wouldn't overpay for him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Orlando.. nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I don't understand why everyone hates this guy so much. is it that he was a minny player and your jealous? Personally, he's not my first choice to be on the Sox, but Visquel is gone. I think Guzman is best on turf, but it won't be that big of a difference. Granted his OBP is just plane terrible, but uribe's isn't anything great either. he's a nice fielder. He can steal some bases, and I just feel he could be a good player on the Southside. I wouldn't overpay for him though. Difference between uribe and guzman is more than 3 million dollars per year. Uribe also has some nice power number. One thing he really needs to improve on is baserunning. He was terrible last year. Had to be the worst base runner on the sox last year and that is saying something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I don't understand why everyone hates this guy so much. is it that he was a minny player and your jealous? Personally, he's not my first choice to be on the Sox, but Visquel is gone. I think Guzman is best on turf, but it won't be that big of a difference. Granted his OBP is just plane terrible, but uribe's isn't anything great either. he's a nice fielder. He can steal some bases, and I just feel he could be a good player on the Southside. I wouldn't overpay for him though. No, it's because I have seen Guzman for quite a few years, and I want no piece of him, and, quite frankly, the numbers support my argument. He gets lazy defensively, can't draw a walk, and he has benefitted greatly from playing on turf. You can see those in numbers too(and if you want those numbers, check out Cheat's blog...I'm too lazy to look them up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Orlando.. nuff said Great city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Just saw on ESPN Guzman agrees to deal with Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Its official, Guzman and Castilla to Washington Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1924347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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