chisox2334 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 start the chant "Lets get Palanco" clap clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 If the Sox sign PP, I be on this board from now on.. I can't wait to hear all you b**** about how bad he is.. come mid-June time. Wow and PP obs is whole .025 Higher whoppie.. signing PP is signs of throwing away 2005 season. Polanco will makes less money with a better obp. Makes sense to me which is the better sign. A .25 better obp may not seem like alot but it is a pretty big difference. Polanco has a better career batting average, obp, sluggin and ops. Also is a damn good fielder. At out park polanco would probally put up uribe type power numbers which would just be an added bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Forget his ops and look at the obp. What's the point of signing another guy that has a ton of talent but can't live up to his potential. Cabrera would be bad for this team, while Placido would be great for this team, imo. That was the Difference in OBP a whopping .025 differnce and in OPS its a whopping .001 difference. AGain signing PP is showing me that this team is not commited to winning but putting the cheapest team on the feild only to make JR more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 All I heard all year from Ozzie, from what I could understand from him.. was how high he was on harris.. Peronally I throw him and bocahrd in a deal together for a bag of balls.. But then again.. that might be to high of an asking price. From what I can tell, Ozzie does not like Harris at all. There was a reason that Valentin was playing from August on nearly everyday with Uribe at 2B, and it was not because we were in contention. And I don't think you're going to convince anyone on here that signing Polanco would be a bad move. The guy hit .289 14 63 .800 in 03 with 14 SBs in 16 attempts, and he hit .298 17 55 .786 with 7 SBs in 11 attempts this past year. He could be a .310 20 70 .825 hitter at USCF in the weak pitching AL Central, easily. The only middle infielder we have who can top that is Uribe, and there is a reason he should be starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 That was the Difference in OBP a whopping .025 differnce and in OPS its a whopping .001 difference. AGain signing PP is showing me that this team is not commited to winning but putting the cheapest team on the feild only to make JR more money. Cabrera may end up getting $7 mill a year from some team, while we could get Polanco for $4-5 mill a year. Polanco gets my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Polanco will makes less money with a better obp. Makes sense to me which is the better sign. A .25 better obp may not seem like alot but it is a pretty big difference. Polanco has a better career batting average, obp, sluggin and ops. Also is a damn good fielder. At out park polanco would probally put up uribe type power numbers which would just be an added bonus. THe OPS is a whopping .001 higher...Less money for a lesser player.. Why as Sox fans are we ok with settling for Avg players??? and that is what PP is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Cabrera may end up getting $7 mill a year from some team, while we could get Polanco for $4-5 mill a year. Polanco gets my vote. a differnce of 2-3 million...JR quit being so damn fa-king cheap and pay a god damn player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 That was the Difference in OBP a whopping .025 differnce and in OPS its a whopping .001 difference. AGain signing PP is showing me that this team is not commited to winning but putting the cheapest team on the feild only to make JR more money. In the entire year his obp was .689, polanco's was nearly .100 points higher. Like i said 225 at-bats is not a great amount of at-bats to go off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 THe OPS is a whopping .001 higher...Less money for a lesser player.. Why as Sox fans are we ok with settling for Avg players??? and that is what PP is. Go with what he has done the entire year and polanco blows him out of the water. Not just american league stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 That was the Difference in OBP a whopping .025 differnce and in OPS its a whopping .001 difference. AGain signing PP is showing me that this team is not commited to winning but putting the cheapest team on the feild only to make JR more money. That's ridiculous. Can Cabrera be a number 2 hitter, probably not, while polanco can get on base and he knows how to advance runners, Placido would be a great top of the order guy. Not only is he cheaper but he's a better player. Cabrera is real overrated, he has a lot of talent but hasn't lived up to potential yet and I'm not sure if he ever will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 In the entire year his obp was .689, polanco's was nearly .100 points higher. Like i said 225 at-bats is not a great amount of at-bats to go off of. ANd he was playing in MOntreal/San Juan without Vladdy and Virdo was injuried for part of the year. Even when Virdo was healthy he wasn't "virdo" like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I wonder if the Braves would move Furcal. I highly doubt it, but you never know what they would give up if someone were to take on one of their bad contracts (ie Andruw Jones). Of course I don't see any chance in hell of it happening, but you never know, potentially the Sox could then move Jones to Pitt or somewhere else in exchange of bad contracts. I love Mr. DUI, and considering the nickname he has been labeled with, Atlanta might look to trade him especially if his numbers are going to jump up in arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 THe OPS is a whopping .001 higher...Less money for a lesser player.. Why as Sox fans are we ok with settling for Avg players??? and that is what PP is. Neither polanco or cabrera are more than average players. I don't know what you are trying to get to. Because if you truly think cabrera is better than polanco. Well i don't know what to say if you think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 That's ridiculous. Can Cabrera be a number 2 hitter, probably not, while polanco can get on base and he knows how to advance runners, Placido would be a great top of the order guy. Not only is he cheaper but he's a better player. Cabrera is real overrated, he has a lot of talent but hasn't lived up to potential yet and I'm not sure if he ever will. Orlando was the number 2 hitter in the Series and did pretty damn well IMO.. So yes he can be. PP is a the better player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Cabrera may end up getting $7 mill a year from some team, while we could get Polanco for $4-5 mill a year. Polanco gets my vote. Outside a platoon combination, Placido may be the only reasonable 2B option for our club. If the market is truly favoring the players, Williams needs to act quickly and sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 ANd he was playing in MOntreal/San Juan without Vladdy and Virdo was injuried for part of the year. Even when Virdo was healthy he wasn't "virdo" like. That Virdo is an excellent ballplayer. Hey buddy, I just recommend you get off the Cabrera bandwagon, because soon you'll be arguing about Jose Valentin being a better defensive player than OC. Whatever it is, these guys don't like Cabrera, although me and you can have our own little anthrax party once the White Sox sign OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 ANd he was playing in MOntreal/San Juan without Vladdy and Virdo was injuried for part of the year. Even when Virdo was healthy he wasn't "virdo" like. Hasn't he been playing with them 6 out of the last seven years? If he was as good as you are making him out to be it should not effect his numbers any if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I'll take an "average" .300+ 15+ 60+ .350+ player in Polanco with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Orlando was the number 2 hitter in the Series and did pretty damn well IMO.. So yes he can be. PP is a the better player? Problem for you is you are going off of 225 at-bats in the american league and are disregarding anything he has done before he was with boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Neither polanco or cabrera are more than average players. I don't know what you are trying to get to. Because if you truly think cabrera is better than polanco. Well i don't know what to say if you think that. The same goes to anyone on this board who thinks that PP is better than Orlando.. You have never look at all the elements of the equation.. PP was playing on the Phills hitting in front of Thome for most of the year... Orlando was in MOntreal... Look at most of the players that leave Montreal they excel.. PP has hit his peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The same goes to anyone on this board who thinks that PP is better than Orlando.. You have never look at all the elements of the equation.. PP was playing on the Phills hitting in front of Thome for most of the year... Orlando was in MOntreal... Look at most of the players that leave Montreal they excel.. PP has hit his peak. Not only hitting in front of Thome but in one of the best hitters park in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The same goes to anyone on this board who thinks that PP is better than Orlando.. You have never look at all the elements of the equation.. PP was playing on the Phills hitting in front of Thome for most of the year... Orlando was in MOntreal... Look at most of the players that leave Montreal they excel.. PP has hit his peak. It isn't who is better, it is who is a better fit IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The same goes to anyone on this board who thinks that PP is better than Orlando.. You have never look at all the elements of the equation.. PP was playing on the Phills hitting in front of Thome for most of the year... Orlando was in MOntreal... Look at most of the players that leave Montreal they excel.. PP has hit his peak. Like i said, he was with them from 1998 until 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Not only hitting in front of Thome but in one of the best hitters park in baseball. Is hitting in front of frank thomas playing at another one of the best hitters park in baseball all that different?? How else would you like to judge these guys, career numbers?? because Polanco's career numbers are better then cabrera's also, not to mention Placido is just a better fit for the sox, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Is hitting in front of frank thomas playing at another one of the best hitters park in baseball all that different?? How else would you like to judge these guys, career numbers?? because Polanco's career numbers are better then cabrera's also, not to mention Placido is just a better fit for the sox, period. Who are you referring to hitting in front of Frank Thomas at the Cell? Look, I am not arguing at all, I am just adding my two cents, and adding another log onto the fire.. because frankly I think OC is a great fit for this ballclub as is PP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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