SuperSteve Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Is hitting in front of frank thomas playing at another one of the best hitters park in baseball all that different?? How else would you like to judge these guys, career numbers?? because Polanco's career numbers are better then cabrera's also, not to mention Placido is just a better fit for the sox, period. Keywords: better fit. I don't see any way around that. We'd get someone who can play 2B, and can spell Crede at 3B allowing Willie and Juan to both get in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Who are you referring to hitting in front of Frank Thomas at the Cell? Look, I am not arguing at all, I am just adding my two cents, and adding another log onto the fire.. because frankly I think OC is a great fit for this ballclub as is PP. Fair enough. You guys were just saying how Placido hit in front of Thome at one of the best hitters park in baseball, so I was just asking if it's all that different hitting in front of frank at the cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Yep there is the SOx way of settling for last place. Polanco was a bust as the everyday 2nb in Philly.. and you want to bring him here to play SS everyday.. that makes sence :headshake Credibility down the drain. I'm not big on Polanco either...but he's not a bust. Bobby Hill, now there is a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Is hitting in front of frank thomas playing at another one of the best hitters park in baseball all that different?? Thank you for mentioning this...if you hadn't I would have. Another thing to look at...Cabrera has never consistently put up good years. He had OPS's of .673 in 00, .752 in 01, .701 in 02, .807 in 03, and .689 this past year. You don't know what the hell you are going to get year in and year out. In the meantime, the last time Polanco's OPS was below .725 was 1999, and it has been .765 or better in 3 of the last 5 years, including the last two in a row. Give me the better player in Polanco before Cabrera, considering he will also be cheaper too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Who are you referring to hitting in front of Frank Thomas at the Cell? Look, I am not arguing at all, I am just adding my two cents, and adding another log onto the fire.. because frankly I think OC is a great fit for this ballclub as is PP. Cabrera could be a good fit at USCF...but he may not be at the same time. His inconsistency bugs me, as I mentioned in my last post. And the fact that he will get around $6-7 mill is not what I'm looking for. Meanwhile, Polanco has been a bit more consistent, and I do know what I'll get from him. To put it into perspective...I'm almost positive I'll get .300 15 60 10 .780 from Polanco, while I could get .310 20 75 25 .825 from Cabrera, or I could get .265 10 50 10 .725 from him. That's how I look at it anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I wouldn't mind either one. givne the money, I'd take PP. I feel he has peaked as a player, that said, I don't think he will level off either. I think you get steady. I'm not sure if teh Cards want to sign Tony Womack back, but if they don't I'd bet a hundred fantasy bucks that he'd rejoin TLR and MR. Pujols. At this point, I wish they would leave the infield as is and go after a big FA pitcher (Perez) and try to lure Steve Finley on a two-year deal. Finley and Rowand would cover a ton of range in the outfield. I know someone will bring up the est coast thing but he's an area boy and worht sending feelers out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I wouldn't mind either one. givne the money, I'd take PP. I feel he has peaked as a player, that said, I don't think he will level off either. I think you get steady. I'm not sure if teh Cards want to sign Tony Womack back, but if they don't I'd bet a hundred fantasy bucks that he'd rejoin TLR and MR. Pujols. At this point, I wish they would leave the infield as is and go after a big FA pitcher (Perez) and try to lure Steve Finley on a two-year deal. Finley and Rowand would cover a ton of range in the outfield. I know someone will bring up the est coast thing but he's an area boy and worht sending feelers out for. Finley will be playing somewhere on the west coast. He wouldn't even allow a trade to an east coast team (i.e. Phillies) last year. His family lives in San Deigo and he has gone on record saying he wants to be close to his family. If he doesn't sign with the Padres (a team that has shown high interest in him) it will be another west coast ballclub. And for what its worth...although he went to SIU, he was born and raised in Union City, TN. That's not really an area boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Well I believe he was born in Paducah, KY which is nearly Illinois and he played four years in Illinois, but its semantics we're arguing really. He is reportedly willing to play in Philly this season so I don;t know if its just the West coast thing as it was in July. He sold his AZ home so I think he'd be willing to play elsewhere as long as we're a contender. Were we to trade for the Unit, we'd be in a great position to nab Finley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 That Virdo is an excellent ballplayer. Hey buddy, I just recommend you get off the Cabrera bandwagon, because soon you'll be arguing about Jose Valentin being a better defensive player than OC. Whatever it is, these guys don't like Cabrera, although me and you can have our own little anthrax party once the White Sox sign OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Well I believe he was born in Paducah, KY which is nearly Illinois and he played four years in Illinois, but its semantics we're arguing really. He is reportedly willing to play in Philly this season so I don;t know if its just the West coast thing as it was in July. He sold his AZ home so I think he'd be willing to play elsewhere as long as we're a contender. Were we to trade for the Unit, we'd be in a great position to nab Finley. He was born where addiston said, union city, tn. He has not gone on record that he will play for the phillies, they have just really been after him hard the last two years and have offered him a contract supposedly this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 He has gone on record that he is interested in playing for a contender and has not limited his search for a team to the West coast. He has said this on ESPNews. www.baseball-reference.com has him listed as being born in paducah, Ky while most other sites have him from Tenn. so I guess you guys are probably right about his brithplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I'd prefer we sign a player who can hit .290 throughout the whole year. Polanco didn't hit higher than .270 until August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I'd prefer we sign a player who can hit .290 throughout the whole year. Polanco didn't hit higher than .270 until August. Most years he is as consistent as it comes. This year was an exception though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I'd prefer we sign a player who can hit .290 throughout the whole year. Polanco didn't hit higher than .270 until August. There aren't too many infielders on the FA market who can boast they can do that, and if they can they're probably out of our price range anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 He signed a 4 year deal and Castilla signed a 2 year deal. This is according to Peter Gammons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Our organization continues to be a joke. If we were the other team for Guzman and couldn't beat out Washington, what a joke. I hope you folks are right about Polanco. How could you not want Guzman over Polanco?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 How could you not want Guzman over Polanco?? Let me see Polanco's better offensively. Better defensively. Is there anything else you'd like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Our organization continues to be a joke. If we were the other team for Guzman and couldn't beat out Washington, what a joke. I hope you folks are right about Polanco. How could you not want Guzman over Polanco?? The question is, why would you want guzman over polanco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 How could you not want Guzman over Polanco?? Wow, easy question. Higher average. Better consistancy. Higher OBP. Higher OPS. More flexibility in the infield. Better defensively. More power. Anything else? The list is pretty long... EDIT: LOL! I love it how me, qwerty, and Cheat swarmed that question like hawks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 All I heard all year from Ozzie, from what I could understand from him.. was how high he was on harris.. Peronally I throw him and bocahrd in a deal together for a bag of balls.. But then again.. that might be to high of an asking price. Ozzie hates Willie. All of that speed he has yet he can't steal a base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I pray that we get Polanco to play 2B and use Uribe at short. Then we can trade for Kendall. We could have a nice top of the order then. Kendall Polanco Frank C.Lee Everett Rowand Gload Uribe Crede Not too shabby if you ask me. Pretty damn good defense as well. Sign Pavano or trade for RJ and all the pieces are in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Kendall Polanco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I pray that we get Polanco to play 2B and use Uribe at short. Then we can trade for Kendall. We could have a nice top of the order then. Kendall Polanco Frank C.Lee Everett Rowand Gload Uribe Crede Not too shabby if you ask me. Pretty damn good defense as well. Sign Pavano or trade for RJ and all the pieces are in place. Too bad we won't get either pavano or johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Too bad we won't get either pavano Take that back qwerty . I agree with you, if the sox were to get Jason and polanco, there wouldn't be enough money to aquire either of those pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 Take that back qwerty . I agree with you, if the sox were to get Jason and polanco, there wouldn't be enough money to aquire either of those pitchers. It wouldn't be tough for the Sox to get me, they'd just have to give me about 100,000 a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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