YASNY Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Anthrax .... Just taking a glance at that list you linked up, that has to be 2004 opening day salary or Magglio would not not be on the list. Not trying to be a smartass here in any way, shape or form. I think Thomas' 2005 salary is $8 mill of the top of my head, too. If this is the case, then several players' salries will be higher than what is listed. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 1st off Garland should not make 3mil. If he does, I think the players Union should be shot. 2ndly, I forgot about Thomas BS player option, only one more year 3rd I was thinking of increases, but with the players we lost I still figure we are around the 55-57 mil range in Salary 4th Yasny, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 1st off Garland should not make 3mil. If he does, I think the players Union should be shot. 2ndly, I forgot about Thomas BS player option, only one more year 3rd I was thinking of increases, but with the players we lost I still figure we are around the 55-57 mil range in Salary 4th Yasny, .... OK. Cool. Let's keep the insults to a minimum from now on and discuss thing like two reasonable Sox fans. Deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 okay I was wrong we only have 35.5 Million to spend, if KW lets the payroll go to 75mil But if we can trade away Pauly's 8 mil a year. More cash to spend Thanks for the welcome, I be sure to bring knoweldge to the board something that you seem to be lacking! The Sox payroll currently sits very high. Just to give some of the big names: Lee Konerko Thomas Everett Thats 22 million between them Jose Contreras Mark Buehrle Freddy Garcia Jon Garland (figuring 4 million) Thats 24 million between them That alone puts the Sox at 46 million. Then you have the bullpen with Shingo/Marte/Politte combining to make 5 million New Total 51 million Then you have all the other players who are going to get raises. If the rest of the roster guys average 750 K (a realistic assumption) you get 10.5 extra million (of course some of those roster spots will be filled by FA/trades which will cost more). That puts the Sox payroll at 61.5 million and its probably a little higher then that in all honesty at this point. This means if the Sox payroll is at 75 million they have 14 million to spend (based on my very leniant numbers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 okay I was wrong we only have 35.5 Million to spend, if KW lets the payroll go to 75mil But if we can trade away Pauly's 8 mil a year. More cash to spend Thanks for the welcome, I be sure to bring knoweldge to the board something that you seem to be lacking! You're off to a roaring start. Cough...Cough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 .... OK. Cool. Let's keep the insults to a minimum from now on and discuss thing like two reasonable Sox fans. Deal? Will Do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 According to the numbers i have been keeping over the last year, if the Sox bring back Ben Davis, Juan Uribe, Joe Crede, Aaron Rowand, Timo Perez, Joe Borchard (or a minor leage replacment), Ross Gload, Willie Harris, and all their pitchers, the team has ABOUT $$63,000,000 tied up for next season. Now, I havent factored in raises in contracts due to arbitration or experience. Assuming the Sox DONT trade Konerko or Lee, that leaves us about $5 million to sign a SS, Reliever, and Starting Pitcher. If the Sox are willing to spend $75 million, then we have an extra 5 million to work with. Now, with that being said, the Sox could find a way to back load the contract of a signed player to compensate for not having a lot of money available this year. If the Sox dont trade Konerko, he will be a free agent and so will Carl Everett. THat frees up over $13 million in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 We also have to Figure on Alex E salary as well, YASNY, I was very wrong about the 40mil.. I seriously think I pull that out of my arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 We also have to Figure on Alex E salary as well, YASNY, I was very wrong about the 40mil.. I seriously think I pull that out of my arse. I made a mistake earlier in this thread. So it's cool. Just don't be so quick to think you have an arguement won or to refer to someone else's lack of knowledge. You kind of set me off this morning, and that's my fault for letting that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 According to the numbers i have been keeping over the last year, if the Sox bring back Ben Davis, Juan Uribe, Joe Crede, Aaron Rowand, Timo Perez, Joe Borchard (or a minor leage replacment), Ross Gload, Willie Harris, and all their pitchers, the team has ABOUT $$63,000,000 tied up for next season. Now, I havent factored in raises in contracts due to arbitration or experience. Assuming the Sox DONT trade Konerko or Lee, that leaves us about $5 million to sign a SS, Reliever, and Starting Pitcher. If the Sox are willing to spend $75 million, then we have an extra 5 million to work with. Now, with that being said, the Sox could find a way to back load the contract of a signed player to compensate for not having a lot of money available this year. If the Sox dont trade Konerko, he will be a free agent and so will Carl Everett. THat frees up over $13 million in 2005. Lee, Konerko, Shingo, Everett, and quite possibly, Frank Thomas, are FA EOE '05. That's $31+ M that is off the payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 What kind of money does Renteria expect? I would say a lot more than the Sox are willing to pay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I would say a lot more than the Sox are willing to pay... sad but true... Sox motto of late.. If your a superstar, we don't want you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Renteria is looking for $10 million per year average. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Renteria is looking for $10 million per year average. No thanks. Jerry is that you? 10 mil a year for 5 years is a steal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Jerry is that you? 10 mil a year for 5 years is a steal.. I know it's a steal. Renteria is the thief though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I know it's a steal. Renteria is the thief though. Someone who hits .330 is a thief? Don't you mean Thomas and Everett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Someone who hits .330 is a thief? Don't you mean Thomas and Everett? LMAO .... I see it as Renteria having the same OBP last year as Uribe. Earlier I said he wasn't worth 8 million, so I damn sure don't think he's worth 10. Let's just agree to disagree on this. Neither one of us will convince the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 LMAO .... I see it as Renteria having the same OBP last year as Uribe. Earlier I said he wasn't worth 8 million, so I damn sure don't think he's worth 10. Let's just agree to disagree on this. Neither one of us will convince the other. I was jsut about to say the same thing.. we are arguing knowing that I am right.. WE can agree that , Renteria would be a good fit here.. and had one bad year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Someone who hits .330 is a thief? Don't you mean Thomas and Everett? You are acting like he consistantly hits .330, only three times in his career has he hit .300. These are his career numbers. Years G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 8 162 615 92 178 33 2 10 71 54 84 30 11 .289 .346 .400 .746 Only thing about his numbers that are some what exciting are his stolen base numbers. He has only stolen thirty or more bases once in the last five years so it seems like he is not quite the same base stealer he once was. Also please do not give me ''but he is great at defense'' because he is 12th in range factor and and 9th in zone rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Bump. Can someone please tell me why renteria is worth ten million dollars per season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Bump. Can someone please tell me why renteria is worth ten million dollars per season. Because teams will overpay if they get desperate enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Bump. Can someone please tell me why renteria is worth ten million dollars per season. IMO he's not. I actually love Edgar too, one of my favorite players but he's not worth anything near 10 million dollars, I'd definitely use that money to go after pitching or a different position player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Because teams will overpay if they get desperate enough. I was referring to only one person to answer this one. I should have just asked him in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I was referring to only one person to answer this one. I should have just asked him in the post. What I'm not good enough to respond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 What I'm not good enough to respond? You're catching on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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