CWSGuy406 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Kendall, OC yeah one of the best leadoff in the AL.. but I am done trying to make you see the wrong in PP So you would rather have Joe B over Jay Gibbons? Who has only played 2.5 season in the bigs 2003 a full season he hit .277/23/100...Let see I would like that .277 is closer to .300 than say Joe B avg of what .174, Yes your right lets keep Joe in RF :headshake Can you point out, where exactly, I said I want Borchard to be the RFer? Don't put words in my mouth, cause that's not cool... I've suggested Dye, but more realistically (this could be good or bad, depending how dedicated Carl still is), Everett... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Why the hell would the Orioles would trade Roberts? This seems to be your big selling point and you seem to have a man crush on him. Please tell me why they would trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 CWSGuy406 said: Can you point out, where exactly, I said I want Borchard to be the RFer? Don't put words in my mouth, cause that's not cool... I've suggested Dye, but more realistically (this could be good or bad, depending how dedicated Carl still is), Everett... Where in this thread did you suggest DYE? other than this last post of yours? Would lead one to belive that you wanted Joe B in RF since for the first month or so Everett is the DH while Thomas recovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 southsideirish said: Why the hell would the Orioles would trade Roberts? This seems to be your big selling point and you seem to have a man crush on him. Please tell me why they would trade him. Follow me with this one. Baltimore wanted Vladdy bad last year, and we all know he didn't land there. With that being said. Look for Baltimore making a run after Beltran, with him in CF that leaves harriston and Roberts to play 2b.. They are not going to get rid of Harriston, roberts will become a tradable player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Where in this thread did you suggest DYE? other than this last post of yours? Would lead one to belive that you wanted Joe B in RF since for the first month or so Everett is the DH while Thomas recovers Not in this thread, no, I haven't suggested Dye. I'm just saying that I don't want Gibbons -- or, at least in that trade. IMHO, Konerko > Roberts + Gibbons + Prospect. That deal would be a whole lot better, IMHO, if Julio was included. BJ Ryan, meh, I think he's the reliever who I've heard bad things out of (clubhouse wise). If we weren't to pick up anyone in the offseason, and Thomas wasn't ready to start the season, we'd be in quite a pickle -- however, I'd probably put Harris in center and Rowand in right, for the first month or so... * (*NOTE - This situation is totally hypothetical, and IMHO, unlikely to happen. If this organization is sure that Thomas won't be back by opening day, they will find a viable RF replacement, at least a guy who can fill in for a month or so.) BTW - I've never once even hinted at Joe Borchard being anywhere close to this team. If Borchard is even a backup on this team next year, we have some major problems (and I'm one of Borchard's backers, too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Follow me with this one. Baltimore wanted Vladdy bad last year, and we all know he didn't land there. With that being said. Look for Baltimore making a run after Beltran, with him in CF that leaves harriston and Roberts to play 2b.. They are not going to get rid of Harriston, roberts will become a tradable player. One more thing. From everything I've been hearing, Baltimore values Roberts much higher than Hairston... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 CWSGuy406, we are going to have to give up more than what we get back with Pauly unless we can swing a 3 way trade for Randy. ANd this way we fill 2 of our biggest needs with 2 above Avg players, mY biggest thing is trade pauly while we can get something for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 CWSGuy406 said: One more thing. From everything I've been hearing, Baltimore values Roberts much higher than Hairston... See I have heard the other way around the whole season, but things might have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: See I have heard the other way around the whole season, but things might have changed. I'll tell you what... If Baltimore were to include Julio on your deal, I'd definitely do it. Roberts/Gibbons (who I don't think is very good, but could potentiallly break out here)/Julio would be a superb return for Konerko... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think Juilo might break the deal IMO, but I would take him over Ryan as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 quickman said: We mujst really think that Konerko is great. Get these three guys for the great Paul konerko. GIve me roberts and Ryan and you would still have to give more than Paul Konerko. If konerko is so great why in the world would we trade him? Wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Trade Pauly to Baltimore for Jay Gibbons and Brian Roberts maybe we can also get out of them BJ ryan.. Fills 2/3 needs No way!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: See I have heard the other way around the whole season, but things might have changed. Nope, Roberts took the 2B job, and Jerry found himself in RF. Jerry started hurt, and Roberts took the job and ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 SuperSteve said: Nope, Roberts took the 2B job, and Jerry found himself in RF. Jerry started hurt, and Roberts took the job and ran. And was league leader in Doubles with 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 If that chump Gibbons is on this team then we can consider our season over. I don't like seeing scenarios which end up making Timo Perez a starter (and there is no way that Ozzie would start Borchard or that loser Gibbons in front of Timo.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Jeckle2000 said: If that chump Gibbons is on this team then we can consider our season over. I don't like seeing scenarios which end up making Timo Perez a starter (and there is no way that Ozzie would start Borchard or that loser Gibbons in front of Timo.) Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 He must be related to Gibbons or something either that or he wants him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 qwerty said: Are you serious? If we only had chumps like Borchard and Gibbons around and Everett comes back still out of shape then we would have no choice but to make Timo the starter. Thats why I want to get a decent outfielder and why I think it's a priority. Gibbons just ain't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Jeckle2000 said: If we only had chumps like Borchard and Gibbons around and Everett comes back still out of shape then we would have no choice but to make Timo the starter. Thats why I want to get a decent outfielder and why I think it's a priority. Gibbons just ain't it. No way in hell timo would start over gibbons. No one will agree with you on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 Jeckle2000 said: If we only had chumps like Borchard and Gibbons around and Everett comes back still out of shape then we would have no choice but to make Timo the starter. Thats why I want to get a decent outfielder and why I think it's a priority. Gibbons just ain't it. a guy who can hit 30 HR and drive in 100rbi's is a bad option in RF.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 First off you forget how much Ozzie likes Timo. Also I can't see him doing anything worth while anywhere next year. I'm still just hoping Alex Escobar can recover and become the Outfielder everyone always thought he could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 Jeckle2000 said: First off you forget how much Ozzie likes Timo. Also I can't see him doing anything worth while anywhere next year. I'm still just hoping Alex Escobar can recover and become the Outfielder everyone always thought he could be. I agree with you on Alex, I do hope that he is the 5 tool player that he was thought to be in the minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawaiisoxfn Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Trade Pauly to Baltimore for Jay Gibbons and Brian Roberts maybe we can also get out of them BJ ryan.. Fills 2/3 needs Over here? Well, lemme guess. "Over there" is mlb.com. And the dolt who gave you this idea is winsox05. Am I right? Even if Im not, when I posted at mlb.com, there was some juvenile who was so damn adamant about PK for Gibbons that he quickly became the joke of the board. In fact, he had a lot of ridiculous ideas. Frank for Hairston. Lee for Meche. He was an idiot. He was worse than many of the Cubs and Twins trolls, if he wasnt one himself. No matter what the topic was, every day he would find a way to post his ideas, forever moronic. In every single thread! That guy pissed everyone off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Escobar HARD ON here. Escobar is crap. Enuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 hawaiisoxfn said: Over here? Well, lemme guess. "Over there" is mlb.com. And the dolt who gave you this idea is winsox05. Am I right? Even if Im not, when I posted at mlb.com, there was some juvenile who was so damn adamant about PK for Gibbons that he quickly became the joke of the board. In fact, he had a lot of ridiculous ideas. Frank for Hairston. Lee for Meche. He was an idiot. He was worse than many of the Cubs and Twins trolls, if he wasnt one himself. No matter what the topic was, every day he would find a way to post his ideas, forever moronic. In every single thread! That guy pissed everyone off. I almost said that but it's usually taboo to bring up mlb.com matters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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