qwerty Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: You can't see how a lefthanded bat with Pop would fit into the Sox Righthanded lineup? Gibbons is below a decent player he does not hit righties very well while being a lefty and that is a problem because about 80% of the pitchers you see are right handed. Hits for a low average and does not seem to like walking very much. His career .315 obp, .451 slugging, and his .766 ops is disgusting for a right fielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 qwerty said: Gibbons is below a decent player he does not hit righties very well while being a lefty and that is a problem because about 80% of the pitchers you see are right handed. Hits for a low average and does not seem to like walking very much. His career .315 obp, .451 slugging, and his .766 ops is disgusting for a right fielder. hmm only played one full season in the big in '03 was hurt in '04.. how is one suppose to improve while hurt? ALso in 03 who else on the OriOLES, could hit for anything? Hense the reason for lopez, tejada, and trying to lure Vladdy. Look at his stas for 03, in 04 he was injuried.. hurting his hip flexor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: hmm only played one full season in the big in '03 was hurt in '04.. how is one suppose to improve while hurt? These are his combined numbers in his career. Not very good. Also 136 games in 2002 is considered a full season. Years G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2.88 162 586 74 150 32 1 26 88 49 90 1 2 .256 .315 .451 .766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 SO a left handed bat that would drive in 80-90 runs plus hit you 25-30HR noone wants??? I still confused on why that is? also its not a straight up 1 for 1 deal you have to figure Roberts/ Harriston and the bullpen help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: SO a left handed bat that would drive in 80-90 runs plus hit you 25-30HR noone wants??? I still confused on why that is? also its not a straight up 1 for 1 deal you have to figure Roberts/ Harriston and the bullpen help. Have you looked at the most important offensive numbers of his? They suck for most anyone especially a right fielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 qwerty said: Have you looked at the most important offensive numbers of his? They suck for most anyone especially a right fielder. Yes RBI's are avg around 88 a year..and would improve with a soild core of players around him, like being oin the Sox hitting in the 6th hole. PLease tell me in 02/3 who was on Baltimore that helped out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Yes RBI's are avg around 88 a year..and would improve with a soild core of players around him, like being oin the Sox hitting in the 6th hole. PLease tell me in 02/3 who was on Baltimore that helped out?? No, look at obp, slugging, and ops. Anyone can tell you they are some of the most important offensive stats. Rbi's and homeruns are secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 qwerty said: No, look at obp, slugging, and ops. Anyone can tell you they are some of the most important offensive stats. Rbi's and homeruns are secondary. obp.. to me only matters for guys that bat 1/2 Slugging yes an important stat OPS...I like the stat but again can be misleading RBI are the most imporant stat to me, if you bat a guy 3-6 HR, are a very overrrated stat IMO, with all the smaller ball parks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: obp.. to me only matters for guys that bat 1/2 Slugging yes an important stat OPS...I like the stat but again can be misleading RBI are the most imporant stat to me, if you bat a guy 3-6 HR, are a very overrrated stat IMO, with all the smaller ball parks Slugging and ops basically coincide. Why is it that obp guys only matter for 1/2 guys for you? That makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: obp.. to me only matters for guys that bat 1/2 Slugging yes an important stat OPS...I like the stat but again can be misleading RBI are the most imporant stat to me, if you bat a guy 3-6 HR, are a very overrrated stat IMO, with all the smaller ball parks RBI's don't mean jack... ARow played like a 100 RBI guy last season, but wasn't in an RBI slot for a majority of the games. Does that mean he wasn't good? wasn't as valuable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The Cheat said: RBI's don't mean jack... ARow played like a 100 RBI guy last season, but wasn't in an RBI slot for a majority of the games. Does that mean he wasn't good? wasn't as valuable? I was gonna get to that but i felt it was pointless. :headshake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 qwerty said: I was gonna get to that but i felt it was pointless. :headshake On the plus side, the ignore feature should only be a week away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 qwerty said: Slugging and ops basically coincide. Why is it that obp guys only matter for 1/2 guys for you? That makes no sense. Its simple your 1/2 guys are suppose to get on base.. and 3--6 guys are there to drive in runs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Its simple your 1/2 guys are suppose to get on base.. and 3--6 guys are there to drive in runs.. Great... What do you do in innings 2-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Its simple your 1/2 guys are suppose to get on base.. and 3--6 guys are there to drive in runs.. So as long as a player with a .220 average and .260 obp drives in 103 runs he is a good player? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: SO a left handed bat that would drive in 80-90 runs plus hit you 25-30HR noone wants??? I still confused on why that is? also its not a straight up 1 for 1 deal you have to figure Roberts/ Harriston and the bullpen help. Hey! I know a LH hitting shortstop that puts up numbers like that. Would you be interested in acquiring him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 qwerty said: So as long as a player with a .220 average and .260 obp drives in 103 runs he is a good player? I think not. Your right.. But Gibbons never hit Jose like in his Career all of those 2 seasons.. Gibbons has a ton of upside... To bad most of you are to blind to see the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 YASNY said: Hey! I know a LH hitting shortstop that puts up numbers like that. Would you be interested in acquiring him? No thanks, But I think Polanco plays 2b not SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: No thanks, But I think Polanco plays 2b not SS Think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 YASNY said: Think again. Yep, still the same....We both know that Orlando Caberea is the best player we need.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Yes cause there were 28 other teams all making a run at a headjob OF who rood the DL for most of 2004.. Washington is still laughing at the trade, and wondering how stupid KW actually is. They are? We paid Carl Everett the minimum for 2004, and they got damaged goods in Jon Rauch, and Gary "The Cat" Majewski. (I call him the cat because he kept ending up in the Sox organization.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 santo=dorf said: They are? We paid Carl Everett the minimum for 2004, and they got damaged goods in Jon Rauch, and Gary "The Cat" Majewski. (I call him the cat because he kept ending up in the Sox organization.) Great we pay league min to have the guy rid the DL.. Another great trade brought to you by.. Kenny Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Great we pay league min to have the guy rid the DL.. Another great trade brought to you by.. Kenny Williams Jon Rauch went on the DL for Montreal too, and he may have made MORE than the league minimum. Quit Crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 santo=dorf said: Jon Rauch went on the DL for Montreal too, and he may have made MORE than the league minimum. Quit Crying. NOt crying stating facts.. Fact KW should have been fired 2 years ago as the GM.. To bad our owner to cheap to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: NOt crying stating facts.. Fact KW should have been fired 2 years ago as the GM.. To bad our owner to cheap to do that. damnit. At least learn how to write. Use too and to correctly please. It is getting very annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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