southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: obp.. to me only matters for guys that bat 1/2 Slugging yes an important stat OPS...I like the stat but again can be misleading RBI are the most imporant stat to me, if you bat a guy 3-6 HR, are a very overrrated stat IMO, with all the smaller ball parks Then you must be in love with a guy like Jeremy Burnitz or Preston Wilson. We can have either of those guys pretty cheaply. Why haven't you recommended them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: WE got something for Rauch?? I thought all we got is a guy to ride the DL while we pay for him to do that.. Give me Rauch back he serves more of a purpose. They could have gotten so much more for Rauch..Carla is a payroll dump thats all, how sad is it when the Expos don't want you anymore????? What did you expect to get back for Rauch. Please just give me an example of what you expected in returrn. Please also tell me what purpose Jon Rauch served or could currently server on this team. Carl Everett fills a whole as a much needed left handed hitter in a very right handed dominant lineup. He should help us a great deal next year. I don't see Rauch ever helping out anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 southsideirish said: Then you must be in love with a guy like Jeremy Burnitz or Preston Wilson. We can have either of those guys pretty cheaply. Why haven't you recommended them? I would love to have Wilson here.. Stick him in RF.. and in the 6th hole.. talk about not losing allot from losing maggs. But who are we going to give up?? Also Gibbon sis only 27, compared to those 2 who are in their 30's? Burnitz it did want here, then I look closer at the numbers away from Coors.. and thought better of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 southsideirish said: damnit. At least learn how to write. Use too and to correctly please. It is getting very annoying. As is watching most of you settle for piss poor player such as Polanco, and Vazquel, When we have players like Renteria and Caberea out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: I would love to have Wilson here.. Stick him in RF.. and in the 6th hole.. talk about not losing allot from losing maggs. But who are we going to give up?? Also Gibbon sis only 27, compared to those 2 who are in their 30's? Burnitz it did want here, then I look closer at the numbers away from Coors.. and thought better of it. Completely idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: As is watching most of you settle for piss poor player such as Polanco, and Vazquel, When we have players like Renteria and Caberea out there. Polanco is the perfect #2 hitter 2nd baseman. He is a perfect fit for this team that should not cost a lot of money. I don't believe Cabrera is woth the money he is going to get. Renteria would be great, but there will be a lot of competition for him, which usually leads to overpaying or signing with a team that has the best chance to win now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 southsideirish said: Polanco is the perfect #2 hitter 2nd baseman. He is a perfect fit for this team that should not cost a lot of money. I don't believe Cabrera is woth the money he is going to get. Renteria would be great, but there will be a lot of competition for him, which usually leads to overpaying or signing with a team that has the best chance to win now. Polanco does not fit here at all, maybe in the role of Uribe as a utly player that is about it. Caberea is worth the money he will request, and is what this team needs, a young great DEF SS, who can hit...WOW that is what OC is Renteria, would be better than OC, but of cource JR has to throw a low bid at him to get most SOx fans to go. Well at least they tried.. SEE THE A_ROD DEAL. And we as fans have to settle for some half ass player .. aka Polanco. I used to get excite about the upcoming season starting in Dec..so far all I hear is how we are going after nobodies that will make this team finsh worse than last years team.. and you and other like oyu are settling for AVG players. FIRE KW NOW, end the 3 years of misery.. He was handed a Divsion Winner in 2000 only to dismantle the furture and make stupid trades for BS players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Polanco does not fit here at all, maybe in the role of Uribe as a utly player that is about it. Caberea is worth the money he will request, and is what this team needs, a young great DEF SS, who can hit...WOW that is what OC is Renteria, would be better than OC, but of cource JR has to throw a low bid at him to get most SOx fans to go. Well at least they tried.. SEE THE A_ROD DEAL. And we as fans have to settle for some half ass player .. aka Polanco. I used to get excite about the upcoming season starting in Dec..so far all I hear is how we are going after nobodies that will make this team finsh worse than last years team.. and you and other like oyu are settling for AVG players. FIRE KW NOW, end the 3 years of misery.. He was handed a Divsion Winner in 2000 only to dismantle the furture and make stupid trades for BS players. Wow, forget it. Cabrera is not a top of the lineup type of hitter. Polanco is and that is why he is the better fit. Many others have also said the same thing on this board. It is frightening to me that you can't see that. I am done arguing with you as you seem to know very little about what you are speaking about. I am certainly glad you will not be the GM of my favorite team as it would be a very ugly team that you would build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Yep, still the same....We both know that Orlando Caberea is the best player we need.. He doesn't play short? I think you were mistaken about this like just about everything else. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/fielding?statsId=6049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: a young great DEF SS, who can hit...WOW that is what OC is Polanco is a better hitter then cabrera, what don't you understand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Rowand44 said: Polanco is a better hitter then cabrera, what don't you understand?? Everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 Rowand44 said: Polanco is a better hitter then cabrera, what don't you understand?? Why you are settling for 2 year old Small mouth bass, when you can have Fresh caught Swordfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Why you are settling for 2 year old Small mouth bass, when you can have Fresh caught Swordfish. I don't understand what you see in cabrera, Polanco is a better hitter and he's a better fit for this team because he can hit in the 2 hole, while Cabrera over the course of season can not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Why you are settling for 2 year old Small mouth bass, when you can have Fresh caught Swordfish. Not that I am a part of this conversation, but what in the hell are you talking about? Get over your man crush on Orlando Cabrera, it's blinding your judgment my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Why you are settling for 2 year old Small mouth bass, when you can have Fresh caught Swordfish. Your opinion of Cabrera is why too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 southsideirish said: Your opinion of Cabrera is why too high. And yours is not of a Polanco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: And yours is not of a Polanco? No, do you look at any stats? If not i suggest you do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 qwerty said: No, do you look at any stats? If not i suggest you do so. I have, and compared and only see that Caberea is a much better fit for the ng term here, and what this team needs. PP is nothing more than a stop gap... We are stuck with Harris leading off and playing 2b, Caberea would fit in nicely in the 2 hole and playing SS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: I have, and compared and only see that Caberea is a much better fit for the ng term here, and what this team needs. PP is nothing more than a stop gap... We are stuck with Harris leading off and playing 2b, Caberea would fit in nicely in the 2 hole and playing SS.. You obviously haven't looked at any stats if that is your opinion. Cabrera doesn't get on base enough to bat 2nd, you have no backup to your argument to use your own words you just have a hard-on for cabrera for whatever reason that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: I have, and compared and only see that Caberea is a much better fit for the ng term here, and what this team needs. PP is nothing more than a stop gap... We are stuck with Harris leading off and playing 2b, Caberea would fit in nicely in the 2 hole and playing SS.. Please answer me this. Why the f*** is cabrera a better long term solution? Polanco's os better in nearly every single statistic. Not just this past year over their entire careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: I have, and compared and only see that Caberea is a much better fit for the ng term here, and what this team needs. PP is nothing more than a stop gap... We are stuck with Harris leading off and playing 2b, Caberea would fit in nicely in the 2 hole and playing SS.. There is now way Cabrera is a #2 hitter. Montreal tried him there and he failed. Boston tried him there and he failed. He is a 7-9 hitter, that is all. Polanco is a prototypical #2 hitter. He gets on base, moves the runner over, and can bunt. His 2B defense is very good as well. You are a strange dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 qwerty said: Please answer me this. Why the f*** is cabrera a better long term solution? Polanco's os better in nearly every single statistic. Not just this past year over their entire careers. Look at OC numbers once he hit the AL and had talent around him.. that is what you have been missing the whole fa-king time. .294 avg 6 hr 31 RBI .785 OPS in 58 games...in the 2 hole while at boston vs his MOntreal Numbers .246 4 Hr 31RBI .634 In 103 games while in Montreal Hmm when the guy is around good players he does better, being in the 2 hole in White SOx Uni, hitting in front of Say Rowand/Lee/Thomas.. you can expect the numbers from the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Look at OC numbers once he hit the AL and had talent around him.. that is what you have been missing the whole fa-king time. .294 avg 6 hr 31 RBI .785 OPS in 58 games...in the 2 hole while at boston vs his MOntreal Numbers .246 4 Hr 31RBI .634 In 103 games while in Montreal Hmm when the guy is around good players he does better, being in the 2 hole in White SOx Uni, hitting in front of Say Rowand/Lee/Thomas.. you can expect the numbers from the top. First of all, very small sample size, 2nd why don't you look at his obp for Boston?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 AnthraxFan93 said: Look at OC numbers once he hit the AL and had talent around him.. that is what you have been missing the whole fa-king time. .294 avg 6 hr 31 RBI .785 OPS in 58 games...in the 2 hole while at boston vs his MOntreal Numbers .246 4 Hr 31RBI .634 In 103 games while in Montreal Hmm when the guy is around good players he does better, being in the 2 hole in White SOx Uni, hitting in front of Say Rowand/Lee/Thomas.. you can expect the numbers from the top. So you are going by a sample size once more? Nice. Wtf does he need protection for? Accoring to you he is a lead-off or two hole hitter. If that is the case it should not matter if he has you and me hitting behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 qwerty said: So you ar egoing by a sample size once more? Nice. Wtf does he need protection for? Accoring to you he is a lead-off or two hole hitter. If that is the case it should not matter if he has you and me hitting behind him. huh? Lets get a couple of things straight..first his name is not BONDS/Vladdy.. so anyone without those names needs protection. Never said he could lead-off...I said # 2 hitter. ops .320, not the greatest not the worse.. compared to polanco at .345.. oo big difference there.. considering he was hitting in front of Thome.. all Year, so there no real big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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